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Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by llamataboot »

ngrilly wrote: post #20
llamataboot wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Atom is really my favorite editor at the moment in terms of features and add-ons but is totally unusable for me due to various performance issues. Not only does it choke on large files but something like a full-project search can take upwards of 30s to finish while Sublime Text finishes it in about 2-3s. I'd like to switch personally, but I can't until some major performance improvements happen. YMMV.

What kind of computer and OS are you using?

Late 2013 Retina MBP w/ 16GB of RAM

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by llamataboot »

melling wrote: post #27
llamataboot wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Atom is really my favorite editor at the moment in terms of features and add-ons but is totally unusable for me due to various performance issues. Not only does it choke on large files but something like a full-project search can take upwards of 30s to finish while Sublime Text finishes it in about 2-3s. I'd like to switch personally, but I can't until some major performance improvements happen. YMMV.

Unless you tell someone your OS and hardware, it's really not helpful for people to decide, or even address the problems. Does Atom use a lot of ram or cpu? I've got a 2 year old Mac Book Pro with 16 GB RAM and an SSD. I downloaded Atom 1.6 after the announcement and leave it open to maintain my notes and I haven't noticed any performance problems with a couple dozen files. I might try to use it for another project o…

yes, I have a few thousand files, some of them are 50k+ line XML files. Sublime still searches my full project in many magnitudes of less time that Atom does. I use Atom for my small toy projects as well.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by pyre »

altano wrote: post #41
sdesol wrote: post #33

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> Microsoft's Visual Studio Code is built on similar foundations This is my understanding of things: - Electron is built on top of Chromium, where the technology was mainly driven by Google and their engineers. - Vscode is based on Monaco which Erich Gamma and his team spear headed. - Atom is based on work done by GitHub. The analogy would be they both use Honda engines, but Microsoft appears to be able to use Honda'…

No this is pretty wrong. They are both built on Electron which is just the window shell hosted in Chrome. The actual text editors are completely different code bases that have nothing to do with each other. The better analogy would be they are both built using Honda doors, but they each have completely different engines.

The point is that if Electron itself (i.e. using Javascript and the DOM) was the issue then both would suffer.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by Bromano2100 »

aioutecism wrote: post #50
grayrest wrote: post #15

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Code is not based on atom, it's based on Electron, which is the runtime (node+webkit without the UI chrome). VSCode has lower typing latency and a more considered system for building / debugging / code completion. Atom has a richer plugin api and has been around longer so it has more plugins. I've done basic plugins for both and plan on using/developing for VSCode but I've been too lazy to write Vim bindings and not…

You may want to try my vim extension for VSCode - amVim. It works best on VSCode's insiders build now. I'm planning a big update as soon as VSCode releases 1.0(which is said to be 4/14)

Thanks for making amVim. It's the only usable vim extension right now. It's a shame you aren't being featured on the marketplace

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by robenkleene »

sergiotapia wrote: post #35

You know what I would really enjoy? Being able to sign into your Github account and sync your preferences and packages to the cloud. Then if I sign in on a different computer, all my hotkeys, packages and themes are copied over seamlessly. As a crappy workaround I have this: https://github.com/sergiotapia/atom-meteor-packages But still, I would like this to be a core integration. I've since switched to RubyMine and W…

You can use `apm stars --install` for the package syncing part of this. It's reasonably close to what you're looking for.

http://blog.atom.io/2014/06/09/stars.html

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by jakswa »

ApolloRising wrote: post #49

Quick question: Does anyone know why a basic thing like printing seems to not be included in the default atom app?

Is your printer one of those combo printer + fax machines? You can copy/paste the code you want to print into an email, email it to a computer with a fax connection, and then fax it to that printer.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by levemi »

falcolas wrote: post #40
levemi wrote: post #39

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Not sure if you're trolling, because that's a pretty ridiculous question. The obvious answer is Atom's immediate usability and the much easier learning curve over Emacs which requires an incredible amount of research and effort to set up properly and use. For example how long do you think it takes for the average new programmer choosing Atom to figure out and learn to use the fuzzy file search versus them getting tha…

> how long do you think it takes for the average new programmer If they're taking advantage of Google, a few seconds for either one. Discoverability in both kinda sucks.

It does not take a few seconds to get fuzzy search working on emacs in any shape or form. You have to add an addon like helm or icicles to get anywhere near atom's functionality. And you have to learn how to get addons to work. It works without an add on in Atom, and you don't need to do a Google search to figure it out.

I actually hate Atom and I resent you making me defend it. >:|

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by eknkc »

girvo wrote: post #45
ywecur wrote: post #29

For you Atom users: Why have you chosen Atom over, say, Emacs?

The handling for modern Javascript development tools is superior than any other editor I've used, Vim and Emacs included unfortunately. I use Vim for everything, except JS development. For that I use Atom.

What plugins do you use for JS?

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by wyqydsyq »

cortesi wrote: post #17
nickpeterson wrote: post #3

Doesn't indicate perf improvements... Not trying to troll, but that surprises me given the large number of complaints about performance.

I'm making a bit of a habit of chipping in on Atom performance complaints with a counterpoint. I've now used Atom as my primary editor for more than a year, and I have no complaints about the performance. This could be because I'm using OSX on recent hardware - I've noticed that my friends using Linux desktops seem to have more issues than I do.

I've been using Atom as my primary editor for over a year too, on various Linux distros, and it's been a very smooth experience. The only issue I've encountered is Atom can be sluggish with large (4MB+) files because it attempts to load the entire file into memory instead of streaming it like Sublime Text does for large files. Easy solution to it is to just use a plain text editor (gedit being my preference) to view your logs.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by mintplant »

pyre wrote: post #53
altano wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No this is pretty wrong. They are both built on Electron which is just the window shell hosted in Chrome. The actual text editors are completely different code bases that have nothing to do with each other. The better analogy would be they are both built using Honda doors, but they each have completely different engines.

The point is that if Electron itself (i.e. using Javascript and the DOM) was the issue then both would suffer.

You might want to tweak the wording a bit - it reads like you're comparing Monaco to Electron, as if it were another app framework based on Chromium.
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