Atom text editor 1.7.0 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by plexicle » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:11 PM UTC

kennywinker wrote: post #9

I've been using Visual Studio Code a bit this past month and there is a lot I like about it. Anyone have thoughts on Code vs Atom? I know Code is based on Atom, but I'm not really clear on how they differ edit: correction. After asking this, I read up a bit and Code is based on Electron which is the core of Atom, but they're fairly different after that.. Code is not a fork of Atom as I thought it was.

Code is noticeably faster than Atom on both my Linux and Windows machines.

While that's my personal experience, it matters the most to me. Makes the decision easy... for the moment.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by eknkc » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:11 PM UTC

nickpeterson wrote: post #3

Doesn't indicate perf improvements... Not trying to troll, but that surprises me given the large number of complaints about performance.

They had decent performance improvements in recent major releases. It's pretty good now, except for the initial boot time. Takes ages to launch it. But after that, runs smooth on my laptop.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by pugio » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:13 PM UTC

kennywinker wrote: post #9

I've been using Visual Studio Code a bit this past month and there is a lot I like about it. Anyone have thoughts on Code vs Atom? I know Code is based on Atom, but I'm not really clear on how they differ edit: correction. After asking this, I read up a bit and Code is based on Electron which is the core of Atom, but they're fairly different after that.. Code is not a fork of Atom as I thought it was.

Visual Studio Code is NOT based on Atom, it is based on Electron[1], a wrapper around V8/Node for the creation of desktop apps. Atom is also based on Electron (and the Electron project is run largely by the Atom people), but other than that the projects use entirely separate code bases, and have vastly different feature sets and performance profiles as a result.

[1]http://electron.atom.io/

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by dockerlocker » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:15 PM UTC

still slow like a dead fish. and bloated. unusable piece of shit, ridicolous. there are so many great toolkits out there, e.g. with qt such an editor would fly. unbelievably how stubborn people are.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by grayrest » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:18 PM UTC

kennywinker wrote: post #9

I've been using Visual Studio Code a bit this past month and there is a lot I like about it. Anyone have thoughts on Code vs Atom? I know Code is based on Atom, but I'm not really clear on how they differ edit: correction. After asking this, I read up a bit and Code is based on Electron which is the core of Atom, but they're fairly different after that.. Code is not a fork of Atom as I thought it was.

Code is not based on atom, it's based on Electron, which is the runtime (node+webkit without the UI chrome).

VSCode has lower typing latency and a more considered system for building / debugging / code completion. Atom has a richer plugin api and has been around longer so it has more plugins. I've done basic plugins for both and plan on using/developing for VSCode but I've been too lazy to write Vim bindings and not willing to use the editor without them.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by juli3n » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:22 PM UTC

_Wintermute wrote: post #8

Is Atom still collecting users data? Last I paid attention there was a big furore about having to opt-out and the legality in Europe.

Yep, but you can disable it by disabling the 'metrics' extension.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by cortesi » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:38 PM UTC

nickpeterson wrote: post #3

Doesn't indicate perf improvements... Not trying to troll, but that surprises me given the large number of complaints about performance.

I'm making a bit of a habit of chipping in on Atom performance complaints with a counterpoint. I've now used Atom as my primary editor for more than a year, and I have no complaints about the performance. This could be because I'm using OSX on recent hardware - I've noticed that my friends using Linux desktops seem to have more issues than I do.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by spdustin » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:42 PM UTC

juli3n wrote: post #16

_Wintermute wrote: post #8

Is Atom still collecting users data? Last I paid attention there was a big furore about having to opt-out and the legality in Europe.

Yep, but you can disable it by disabling the 'metrics' extension.

That's _after_ the first launch, correct?

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by vvanders » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:50 PM UTC

santaclaus wrote: post #7

nickpeterson wrote: post #3

Doesn't indicate perf improvements... Not trying to troll, but that surprises me given the large number of complaints about performance.

The performance problems on a clean Atom install are incredibly vexing. Microsoft's Visual Studio Code is built on similar foundations and has great performance, so I don't think Atom's performance problems are fundamental.

Yeah, I've been really impressed with how snappy VSCode is.

Re: Atom text editor 1.7.0 released

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Post by ngrilly » Wed, Apr 13, 2016, 10:53 PM UTC

llamataboot wrote: post #4

nickpeterson wrote: post #3

Doesn't indicate perf improvements... Not trying to troll, but that surprises me given the large number of complaints about performance.

Yeah, Atom is really my favorite editor at the moment in terms of features and add-ons but is totally unusable for me due to various performance issues. Not only does it choke on large files but something like a full-project search can take upwards of 30s to finish while Sublime Text finishes it in about 2-3s. I'd like to switch personally, but I can't until some major performance improvements happen. YMMV.

What kind of computer and OS are you using?