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Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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Would love a slider that would allow you to adjust the words allowed from 500 most common words in English to 10k most common words. Also, it would be great if you could compile a windows version.

Or how about the more uncommon the word the more like the background tone it is so that you get instant visual feedback?

I like this idea. Maybe a context menu for each word with scored alternatives..

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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Am I the only one to find that using only the 1,000 most common words actually makes thing harder to understand? The writer ends up having to use convoluted paraphrases to refer to things where a precise, well defined and well understood word exists but it's not part of the top 1,000.

I think a much better approach would be to start with the 1000 most common words, but allow defining terms from there. This allows you to develop the correct jargon which will both enhance understanding and allow communication with others about the topic in the future. Having to continually fall back on silly terms like "up goer" does nothing to enhance understanding when you can define what a rocket is and then just…

Bingo - let users extend lingo and use crowd-sourced/maintained lingo/lexicon files.

It'd be absolutely awesome if these lexicon files evolved organically and were public over time to graph how language progresses...

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be handy for non native English speakers though - less to learn.

Even so, you still really have to know the idiomatic phrases, which can be considered as separate semantic units. Just because you know what "follow" and "up" are doesn't mean that you know what it means to "follow up".

Yes, the use of idioms and slang is basically a cheat around the thousand-word limit of Basic English by writers trying to use it.

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be handy for non native English speakers though - less to learn.

I seriously doubt it, who wants to sound like a very stupid child? This is more of an XKCD fan boy project. So let's look at a famous XKCD comic using this, "US Space Team's Up Goer Five". "US Space Team" barely makes sense, does more to obscure than illuminate, and "Up Goer Five" makes no sense at all.

But "you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today" is one of the funniest understatements I've ever read.

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

#145

Am I the only one to find that using only the 1,000 most common words actually makes thing harder to understand? The writer ends up having to use convoluted paraphrases to refer to things where a precise, well defined and well understood word exists but it's not part of the top 1,000.

The technique is working quite well for Donald Trump: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/15/ho... > Some of his answers last only a few seconds, some are slightly longer, but almost all consist of simple sentences, grammatically and conceptually, and most of them withhold their most important word or phrase until the very end. Trump’s sentences end with a pop, and he seems to know instinctively wh…

He speaks like a child, it works because his base is stupid and they relate. It's not a skill, he just isn't that bright.

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

#146
post #117

I read years ago that the vocabulary used on TV was about 2,000 words. A high school graduate has a vocabulary of 10,000 words, a college graduate 30,000, and there are a million words in the English language. What was interesting to me was that I could learn a foreign language by only learning 2,000 words!

That is interesting. What about languages other than English? Any idea about the avg. word count needed to learn them? (Used on TV does seem like a good benchmark for "learned). Or is it roughly the same for every language, do you think?

"being able to read a newspaper" is a typical goal for pre-fluency language acquisition. In most languages I'm aware of the number of words required to do that is something around 1500-3000.

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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post #64

It's neat but not very useful. I'd actually be interested in an editor that enforces E-Prime[1] to see if it made writing more clear. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime

https://github.com/AndrewHynes/eprime-mode

Thanks! My first question upon seeing this post was: isn't there already an emacs mode for this?

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/20/donald-t... He does use very simple words.

This also ignores also that most Democratic presidents spoke on the same level

The article literally has a chart showing that the current candidates are all speaking at a higher level, and that the remaining candidates, Democrat and Republican, are speaking at 8th 9th, and 10th grade levels. Of the current cohort of candidates only Kasich is near Trump.

If you're talking about presidents (which is unfair, the type of speech you give as president vs candidate, and debates are different), it's clear that although the trend was downward, for the past few presidents the average level was about 8th grade:

http://www.vocativ.com/interactive/usa/us-politics/president...

Trump speaks at a 4th grade level. Probably intentionally.

Re: Cleartext: A text editor that only allows the 1,000 most common words in English

#149

Am I the only one to find that using only the 1,000 most common words actually makes thing harder to understand? The writer ends up having to use convoluted paraphrases to refer to things where a precise, well defined and well understood word exists but it's not part of the top 1,000.

I think a much better approach would be to start with the 1000 most common words, but allow defining terms from there. This allows you to develop the correct jargon which will both enhance understanding and allow communication with others about the topic in the future. Having to continually fall back on silly terms like "up goer" does nothing to enhance understanding when you can define what a rocket is and then just…

If this colored or underlined words past the 1000 rank, instead of removing them, it would be less offensive to my sensibilities.
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