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Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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When determining who made this deal happen and at such a good price for Twitter, it's worth noting that Anthony Noto (Twitter's current CFO) used to be the CFO of the NFL -- I think he might have had a bit of influence.

Probably has some inside knowledge on the NFL's own financials, too.

Or he blackmailed his old buds... just saying :D

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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All things that can be fixed with good software. These problems are someone's opportunity.

The hardware isn't being built with DVR-like storage and there's nothing software can do to create additional bandwidth when it becomes too scarce. Cable just works and my other devices and neighbors don't threaten it. These problems all exist today and the needless but inevitable push for 4K is going to make them much worse.

Having to use a DVR is something specific to live cable broadcasts. Internet streaming doesn't need anything like that, since the Internet is inherently interactive.

Have you ever watched streaming sports on the Internet? Something like the MLB.tv platform, which is award-winning and used by millions of people not just for MLB but for other streaming media? It has rewind, picture-in-picture, the ability to watch multiple streams (home and away announcers) for the same event, the ability to either start from the beginning of the broadcast or start from live (and from live, rewind to the beginning if you so choose). You can also watch any game basically since baseball started being broadcast.

None of those things exist on cable. So I'm not sure why you're saying that cable is a better sports-watching medium. Why the hell would I ever need to rewind a local copy of the game?

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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Does depend where outside the US you mean - Sky in the UK show two, often three Sunday games, all the playoffs, Thanksgiving, and coverage in the UK increases year on year. If you live somewhere like London, finding a bar that shows the game is also trivial. The real bugbear for UK fans is the often one sided / low quality nature of the games they send over here. In all the time that there's been NFL in London, they…

A lot of that has to do with them sending the Jags again and again

Part of it is also that good teams do not want to give up 'home' games. So we end up getting teams like the Jags with a small fan base, or the Dolphins.

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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The Yahoo numbers posted in the article are a bit misleading because the London game was not available to watch on cable television in the U.S., so you were basically forced to watch it online, which is why Yahoo would pay such a large amount of money (and why their viewership was so high) to broadcast one game. Twitter, by comparison, is broadcasting the Thursday Night game alongside several other channels. I'd gues…

> On cable tv alone, there are two channels (NFL Network and CBS) that both broadcast the game. The big one there is CBS, meaning that the game is already accessible even for cord-cutters, assuming they get acceptable reception from their local CBS station.

Only for the first half of the season. Then it goes exclusive to NFL Network, except in the home markets of the teams playing (there it is also shown on CBS).

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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I am a little sad that Yahoo didn't win, having watched the Bills Jags game in London over the stream. It was really really high quality and well done. It was great to watch too. I'm just happy to see the wheels start moving on sports to get them off of cable, though. Football looks like the one last reason a lot of people haven't become cable cutters

I'm not. When they picked up Community for season 6, they did such a bungling of release that most die-hard fans never even saw the 6th season (despite it being great). Yahoo's problem is that they throw too much at the wall and dont have enough bandwidth to follow through appropriately.

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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Live sports moving online would be the final nail in the coffin of the cable television industry.

Streaming is a poor user experience compared to cable with a good DVR. In some ways it hits sports especially hard. Streaming is inherently rewind-unfriendly, that's something you want more often with sports. The whole smooth rewind/pause/fast-forward ability is a priority for me and would keep me on a Tivo forever. Even on a local bluray it's less convenient, with streaming it's a dealbreaker. Also, streaming is inh…

-> Streaming is a poor user experience compared to cable with a good DVR.

I disagree, especially when considering how awesome MLB.tv is, and BAM (Baseball Advanced Media) in general. Any game I want (subject to a few blackout restrictions, which you can get around if you're so inclined), and I have the choice of home vs. away broadcast. I pay for 100 Mbps at my apartment, and haven't had an issue with streaming games thus far this season - didn't last year either. And the ability to watch multiple Baseball games at once is simply amazing. So much Baseball! The price point dropped this season because of an out-of-court settlement[1]. As far as rewinding....for live sports?...meh. MLB and their partner broadcasters do a pretty solid job with replay.

Every year is the same for me: I have cable up until Baseball season starts, then I cancel it and just get MLB.tv because that's all I watch anyway. I doubt this issue will go away for MLB. Eventually I think enough pressure is going to hit these local networks that they'll face more problems in the future.

So perhaps if you limit the scope of your comment to streaming television shows...maybe, but I doubt it. If I'm streaming a TV show on HBO Go/Hulu/whatever...doesn't that mean I by-definition have all rewind/pause/etc control?

[1] http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/more-details-on-t...

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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sigh would be nice if it was somebody with a better-supported streaming experience like YouTube. I've already got a YouTube app on about 3 devices connected to my TV. I'm sure not going to watch on a computer. Maybe twitter will come up with an AppleTV app.... In 2015, CBS and NFL network "teamed up" to provide coverage of Thursday night football, which meant... the first half of the season was available over-the-air…

There's a Periscope AppleTV app.

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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Live sports moving online would be the final nail in the coffin of the cable television industry.

I can't see any online services ever competing with cable and satellite providers over sport. It would require deep pockets to convert paying customers to a new platform, plus the Internet isn't proprietary enough to physically capture the audience.

> paying customers

The data readily show that young people are not paying customers [of cable services]. In the long term, professional sports organizations have to go online to maintain relevance to home/casual viewers.

Re: Twitter Wins NFL Deal to Stream 2016 Thursday Night Football

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Live sports moving online would be the final nail in the coffin of the cable television industry.

Streaming is a poor user experience compared to cable with a good DVR. In some ways it hits sports especially hard. Streaming is inherently rewind-unfriendly, that's something you want more often with sports. The whole smooth rewind/pause/fast-forward ability is a priority for me and would keep me on a Tivo forever. Even on a local bluray it's less convenient, with streaming it's a dealbreaker. Also, streaming is inh…

random pauses, buffering, dynamic drops in resolution

I get that on cable TV now, since they've gone digital. Granted less than streaming, but it does happen.

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