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Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by johnward » Tue, Apr 05, 2016, 1:23 PM UTC

Bedon292 wrote: post #247

johnward wrote: post #221

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Supercharging hardware is included. Did not confirm it will be free. On the Model S there is a charge for supercharging hardware.

He said supercharging was included in the talk. And everywhere is reporting it as included on all models. "and supercharging, even for the basic version of the car." http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/04/the-post-model-3-reveal-...

You don't understand. "Supercharging" means hardware. It takes additional charging hardware to be compatible with a supercharger. On the Model S supercharging hardware was an option. I hope you are right but at this point it's still unconfirmed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/4dc6rs/officia...

Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by jandrese » Tue, Apr 05, 2016, 7:21 PM UTC

erikpukinskis wrote: post #236

jandrese wrote: post #149

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I'm guessing Tesla gets to cheat a bit since they don't use heat engines and don't have to run a bunch of air over a giant mesh screen to keep the engine from burning up. Also, that giant pane of smooth glass over the top probably helps.

So by "cheat" you mean "solve the same problem in a better way"?

They get to play on a tilted playing field. They do have to lug around the weight of the batteries, but for cruising at highway speed (where the aero figure is most important), extra weight matters little.

Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by mattlutze » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 1:46 PM UTC

friendzis wrote: post #249

exhilaration wrote: post #77

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A lot of American states don't require front license plates and their motor vehicle agencies will only provide you with a single rear plate.

Interesting. How do they implement speed cameras, plate scanning for police officers and parking gates if there is no front facing number plate?

By snapping pictures of the rear plate.

Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by gdubs » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

johnward wrote: post #218

S_A_P wrote: post #72

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It may be, but as I referenced in my original post, he was much more polished and looked way more comfortable when he was comparing the battery swap to refueling an Audi. I just would expect that launching the "car that will save Tesla from bankruptcy" should have had a bit more polish.

Yet they have 300k preorders lready. Sounds like a lot of people didn't really care how well rehearsed Musk was.

Also gives weight to the idea that when presenting, authenticity is everything. Jobs, according to countless close acquaintances, was very much the person he was on stage.

Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by Bedon292 » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 12:12 AM UTC

johnward wrote: post #251

Bedon292 wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said supercharging was included in the talk. And everywhere is reporting it as included on all models. "and supercharging, even for the basic version of the car." http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/04/the-post-model-3-reveal-...

You don't understand. "Supercharging" means hardware. It takes additional charging hardware to be compatible with a supercharger. On the Model S supercharging hardware was an option. I hope you are right but at this point it's still unconfirmed. https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/4dc6rs/officia...

Thanks for that link. To me, 'supercharging' is the act of charging. And he specifically said supercharging, not supercharger hardware. So that is where the confusion came from.

Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by smackfu » Thu, Apr 07, 2016, 11:56 AM UTC

teh_klev wrote: post #147

smackfu wrote: post #124

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They barely communicated anything at the reveal. It was like a few minutes of leadup, five bullet points about the 3, and then they showed the cars and ended it. Given the audience they had, a bit of a wasted opportunity.

I wouldn't exactly call ~300,000 one thousand dollar deposits in less than 4 days a wasted opportunity.

A third of those were before the car was even revealed.

Re: Tesla Intrigue Deepens with Musk's Twitter Barrage

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Post by SkyMarshal » Fri, Apr 08, 2016, 11:36 AM UTC

ilikepi wrote: post #100

SkyMarshal wrote: post #79

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Except a hatchback actually has a functional purpose, the Model 3's grill-less grill not so much.

The function of the grille on a car with a combustion engine is to protect the radiator from debris while still allowing airflow to it. The need for airflow comes at a cost of aerodynamics, so if the Model 3 lacks a radiator, would it not be more "functional" to sacrifice the traditional grille in favor of improved aerodynamics? The current design looks transitional to me...it has the general nose shape everyone is u…

>The current design looks transitional to me.

That's the point, it's transitional not functional. It reminds me of the Lincoln Mark 8's old rear trunk faux tire hump:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Mark_VIII#/media/File:...

I would have thought Tesla would have skipped the transitional and re-thought what a frontend should do and look like when there's no need for a grill anymore.