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> Is "reading an email" one thing? That's essentially what Mutt does. But you could also use other programs to parse and read each email file if you wish. "Fetching email" can also be a different thing. I use offlineimap for that purpose and store my messages in the Maildir format. > And "writing an email" another thing? Yes. Even "sending an email" is another thing. The program that edits my emails (vim) is not the…
I was curious about your setup. Found this: https://gist.github.com/4540438 But no mention of OS X contacts integration. Care to share how you do it?
Mutt 1.6
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Re: Mutt 1.6
#142I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.
the UNIX philosophy died with the advent of the web imo. The emacs editor/Mozilla suite (SeaMonkey) mentality of doing most things and doing them relatively well is the reality we have inherited.
It was redone poorly as `npm install reinvented-wheel`.
Re: Mutt 1.6
#143March 8, 2006 Marissa Mayer prefers Pine to Gmail [mayer]Marissa Mayer, VP, Search Products and User Experience at Google confesses to CNN Money that she doesn't use Gmail for her business mail. "I don't feel overwhelmed with information. I really like it. I use Gmail for my personal e-mail -- 15 to 20 e-mails a day -- but on my work e-mail I get as many as 700 to 800 a day, so I need something really fast. I use an…
Oh yeah, I had an MS-DOS build of PINE that got me through uni. After loading the packet drivers, I had just enough conventional memory to load the mail client as well. Good times.
Re: Mutt 1.6
#144I'll never forget, for the rest of my life, a devastating email scenario that I was one keypress away from executing that would have had serious dire consequences. It was 2003 and I was a dedicated and exclusive Mutt user (this, before Gmail came along). Due to some accidental press of the wrong key combination, somehow Mutt managed to take every single email in my Sent folder and combine it into one gigantic aggrega…
This is why you don't let cats anywhere near your keyboard ;-)
Re: Mutt 1.6
#145I love mutt and use it as my primary email client. I got too frustrated with gmail's interface changing all the time and Apple's Mail.app introducing regressions each release. You can't beat mutt's speed and stability. I do wish that there was an option to treat threads as the primary unit, like gmail and sup ( http://supmua.org ). The threading support isn't bad, but expanding and collapsing threads in the index vie…
Gmail's conversation threading, or the Thunderbird Conversations addon, are the only thing I wish for with Mutt. I once asked on the mutt mailing list about this, but the solutions were pretty ugly, mostly involving all sent mail copied in the inbox.
Still, mutt is my main email client. I only started using it a couple of years ago, after Thunderbird started to strain with my mail folders. In 1990s college days, I used Pine. Mutt scared me back then, tho mostly because no one I saw using it then edited with Pico.
Re: Mutt 1.6
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Not OP, but here's something I miss in Gmail search all the time-- ability to target a search at a particular directory and its sub-directories. Suppose, for example, I have set up a subdir for conferences. That subdir contains a bunch of subdirectories for individual conferences. I know the e-mail I'm looking for is stored in there, because it relates to a conference publication I wrote. However, that subdir itself…
Check again - gmail supports nested labels. exactly same as directory/subdirectories. Separate screen of search results is just another tab in your browser - that's actually a vote in favor of web based gmail.
Yes, it supports nested tags, and the tags create structure that suggests directory nesting. However, as far as I can tell the search can't be made to honor the nesting.
To make my example explicit above, suppose I have a "directory" structure with dirs like `conf`, `conf/iaq2016`, and `conf/gmu2012`. Then a search in `conf` will not turn up results in `conf/iaq2016` or `conf/gmu2012`.
Believe me, I check this once every few months, always hoping that google will have improved their "tag" implementation.
I do appreciate your tip about multiple browser windows, though. In general, I don't like having multiple windows open to the same application-- but that's my problem, and not a design flaw in Gmail's search.
Re: Mutt 1.6
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ImageMagick is a poor example of "doing one thing right" because every command line tool actually does a million different things with different command line switches. Additionally, it can't do everything GIMP can (which I think you're acknowledging with the winky face).
Imagemagick can't do everything GIMP can do. But everything Imagemagick can do can be scripted . Need to convert 10, or 100, or 1,000, or 1,000,000 images? You might use GIMP for the first. You'd best give it up for the 2nd and further. On Linux desktop, I had an Imagemagick command in my command history which would trim off the top n pixels of images to remove extraneous elements. Quick to call that up and run it on…
"But everything Imagemagick can do can be scripted."
So can the Gimp. I wrote a calendar script in Perl for the Gimp literally 15 years ago.
Re: Mutt 1.6
#148I'll never forget, for the rest of my life, a devastating email scenario that I was one keypress away from executing that would have had serious dire consequences. It was 2003 and I was a dedicated and exclusive Mutt user (this, before Gmail came along). Due to some accidental press of the wrong key combination, somehow Mutt managed to take every single email in my Sent folder and combine it into one gigantic aggrega…
I'd love to know this key sequence. Did it involve a cat?
Re: Mutt 1.6
#149I use it daily. It's a lovely email client. Close to the Unix ideal of doing one thing, and doing it well. Integration with other utilities (notmuch, isync) for indexing and sync'ing is very easy, thanks to close adherence to Unix principles, and gets you a very neat setup. Nothing to envy from Gmail.
I used to be a mutt user back in the day, and it was great at the time, especially when unix/linux lacked anything really better, and there were no iphones or android devices. It was/is the best-in-class console based email client, probably still is. I can't but help feeling though these days it just doesn't really gain you anything substantive to bother to learn it, or even continue to use it, and spend the hours it…
"and spend the hours it will require to dial in and maintain your configuration."
This is my main gripe with mutt. The days where I could futz around with 100 config setting for hours are long behind me. Just having to set up an smtp daemon every time, and having to maintain it, is such a pain in the ass. Probably most tools have moved on by now (I moved away from mutt in 2004 or 2005) but I used mostly postfix and qmail (when I got fed up with one I switched to the other for a few months, etc). Just having to remember the dozens of idiosyncrasies in those was enough of a PITA to make me switch to an integrated graphical mail program.
My main method of searching email was grep -R ~/.Maildir . When I think back about that - ugh.
Re: Mutt 1.6
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>Nothing to envy from Gmail. What do you use for mobile access?
not the commenter you want, but i had both a mobile client (if i am using mutt, that means i can access the imap/pop server from other clients) and the ultimate ssh client on my phone which gave me full mutt, in case i needed to have my procmail filters helping me)
Navigating any terminal software without a true keyboard is an exercise in frustration. Look, I understand what you're saying, but claiming that an ssh client on a phone is a full-fledged replacement for a touch-optimized UI is disingenuous.