This is really cool. Any idea how widespread this method is currently used?
No idea. Sounds almost to good to be true. I presume it needs a continental shelf, which precludes the west coast.
How an Army of Ocean Farmers Are Starting an Economic Revolution
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#52This kind of farmers revolutions crop all the time in history, thanksfully! I'm a bit sceptical about the taste of seaweed having being in Japan already, but of course he is right. Just see the land farmers revolutions, fighting industrial farming with new methods. Organic farming (the "bio" label), sellers collectives, Community Supported Agriculture (CSA). Previously they had to fight the big mills and banks, now t…
Better that than killing ~3 trillion ocean animals yearly and destroying the oceanic ecosystems.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, partially I'm sceptical because the tastes can range from throwing up, disgusting, neutral, faboulous (miso soup). But on the hand he surely knows what he is doing with a successful 20 acres farm, so I rather believe it tastes good.
Another thing to remember is that tastes can be acquired. When I was 12 I hated beer, blue cheese and olives. Nowadays I'd have that for dinner and count myself lucky. I remember being unwilling to eat the coffee crisp out of my Halloween candy bag because it tasted too much like coffee. Now I drink 4 cups a day black as night. I imagine that if you forced yourself for a week (or some timeline), you'd love the taste…
The problem is that this doesn't necessarily scales up, it's very nice for over-priced niche markets like high end restaurants but if you are going to feed the world using this type of agriculture it can be just as destructive as any other type of mass production on a scale that can feed nations not to mention the world.
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#54We need open source resources on how to build and maintain farms like this. Unfortunately these guys are not sharing yet, at least I couldn't find any detailed information. I'd love to try this myself, but as a complete novice i'd need a lot basic information - like what species to grow, how to get seeds and plant them, etc.
Have a look at 'open source ecology', there are things existing, but this is still a long way from getting to the point where CS/math is.
You can also look at Earthships, a fairly utopian idea, and how far they are from embracing openness, despite their proclaimed philosophy.
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#55We should focus our attention on taking humans out of the food industry altogether. Here's a model I've been thinking about that should make it possible to create a free food society: http://i.stack.imgur.com/KfGtn.png Not just free as in no cost, but free also as in liberty. Imagine not having to work for food. Food weaves a recursive economic penalty into all facets of society. What's especially amazing about 3D ve…
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#57https://youtu.be/5FBEMb-Ra14 | related - its my systems I'm building, recorded yesterday, during rain storm.
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#58Wonder what strategy places like Monsanto could use for that purpose? First approach that springs to mind is trying to discredit the approach... probably combined with something legal like trying to get it banned outright because "food safety".
Hopefully the industrialised agriculture profiteers can be warded off long enough for this to get legs. :)
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#59We need open source resources on how to build and maintain farms like this. Unfortunately these guys are not sharing yet, at least I couldn't find any detailed information. I'd love to try this myself, but as a complete novice i'd need a lot basic information - like what species to grow, how to get seeds and plant them, etc.
Upvoted! (And I don't know, why you were downvoted) If we're doing software the open source way (and thus securing the sustainability of the software "eco" system), why not do the same for food production (and secure the sustainability of food production). Just this morning I talked to a woman on the Sunday market and she told me about a guy who, even thou he has his own green houses and makes a living doing that, gi…
For when to plant, I use this web site, if my desired plant isn't on the chart, I make a best guess based on related plants:
http://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-dates
As for temperature tolerances, googling the "hardiness of a tomato" is a great stepping stone.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
He says that just after your quote: "Instead of harvesting food, these farms harvest ecosystem services." That means they don't sell the production
Hmm, they could if it's to make ethanol!