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Pretty smart looking car. Doesn't ape the Model S' look too much, clearly looks a little more compact, and the roofline makes it look both roomy and a little space-agey. From the front it almost has a Porsche Panamera look going on... Nice looking car. I wish Tesla good luck, though I don't think they'll need it.
This, on the other hand is genuinely good looking.
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A couple of counter points 1.) Design is subjective. I for one think while the Model S looks great, the X and 3 do not look that attractive. 2.) I really don't think "faster" really means much when are you talking about the majority of the mainstream automobile market. Top speed is low on the list of priorities for the average consumer. 3.) Cheaper is not free. I would save about $70 (based on today's gas prices in O…
> "Tesla struggled to get 50,000 cars out last year. BMW sold north of 2 million cars in 2015" Please do not compare all the models BMW sold with a single Tesla Model S. BMW only sold 142,000 of 3 series in 2014. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/bmw-3-series-sales-figu...
The fact is that BMW produced 40x more vehicles in 2015, which would suggest their supply chain and support network is much more robust.
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A couple of counter points 1.) Design is subjective. I for one think while the Model S looks great, the X and 3 do not look that attractive. 2.) I really don't think "faster" really means much when are you talking about the majority of the mainstream automobile market. Top speed is low on the list of priorities for the average consumer. 3.) Cheaper is not free. I would save about $70 (based on today's gas prices in O…
> "Tesla struggled to get 50,000 cars out last year. BMW sold north of 2 million cars in 2015" Please do not compare all the models BMW sold with a single Tesla Model S. BMW only sold 142,000 of 3 series in 2014. http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/bmw-3-series-sales-figu...
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It's all relative. I think many would consider a $35k BMW a "luxury" in comparison to a $15k Honda.
Ok, if they consider $35K BMW a luxury car, then how would they call a $90K Porshe? Or $300K Rolls-Royce?
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The link does not let me view it now. Such a video should not be a live-only stream.
Yes you can. It's stored for playback
No playback. "Ended 3 hours ago" and "Broadcast not found"
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I believe most modern cars you buy today (even low-end ones) have a GSM modem connected to a phone carrier which is probably active regardless of your payment for the "connected" features, so not much better unless you figure out a way to pull its power.
You could remove the SIM card I suppose. On some cars this is super easy (it just pops right out of the dash), on the Model S unfortunately its a lot harder to access (but still doable). And while most cars seem designed to do just fine when you pop out the SIM, nothing prevents Tesla from making the car inoperable without the SIM (I have no idea what the current behavior is, just speculating).
Note that [depending on the modem], simply removing the SIM might not be enough to turn the radio off. It might still try connecting to the network and naturally send your IMEI to the carrier. For instance, handsets are usually configured so you can call emergency numbers without SIM cards. They need to reach out to a network to do so. You might still be tracked. It's better to make sure it is not powered.
I agree that Tesla probably takes the Orwellian issues to a whole new level, but I'm not sure this sort of lockdown would be limited to EVs for long.
> Both cars will start at $30,000 or less after federal tax credits of $7,500 are applied. And both go at least 200 miles on a fully charged battery. The Bolt is a five-passenger hatchback that boasts cargo space and more legroom for rear passengers—front-seat backs are an inch thinner than in most cars. Looks almost identical specs-wise to Chevy Bolt, which will be available at the end of 2016 rather than 2017. http…
As if to suggest people wouldn't be willing to wait a year to get the 3 instead of the Bolt. Do you really think these two products have equivalent level of appeal? I'm sorry, I may be missing something re: specs, but can you point to where it says that the Bolt will go 0-60 in Also, does the Bolt have a nationwide supercharging network? Does it have autopilot? Does it have an astounding, unparalleled safety rating?
Is the Bolt actually a better car? No, but I think it's evidence that if automakers actually get serious about electric they can put together something competitive and bring it to market far faster than Tesla.
[1] http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/detroit-auto-show/news...
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In comparison, Nissan only sold 170k LEAFs from 2010-2015.[1] Three years of Nissan LEAF sales in 24h? Fantastic! [1] http://evobsession.com/nissan-leaf-sales-climb-to-over-17000...
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Even I could go put $1k down for a Model 3 and then renege when they start shipping. But the Nissan Leaf sales are buying a whole car.
