Live data from Hacker News

Model 3 Unveiling [video]

model3.tesla.com

191–200 of 395 posts

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#191
post #55

I love Tesla the company and respect the hell out of Elon. But his presentation style is hard to watch - he is literally stammering through what feels like a dry script. I've never seen him live before is this par for the course or nerves? Edit - wow that is a better looking car than I expected. You can be as awkward serving as you like if that's the main course!

I think they could improve things by controlling the audience more. The presentation wasn't helped by people yelling and interrupting (yes, they were enthusiastic). Apple handles this a lot better, they get applause and cheers, but it always seems to be at the right time. Is it because their audience is apple employees highly trained to give feedback on cue?

It likely has more to do with the alcohol being served at the event.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#192
post #55

I love Tesla the company and respect the hell out of Elon. But his presentation style is hard to watch - he is literally stammering through what feels like a dry script. I've never seen him live before is this par for the course or nerves? Edit - wow that is a better looking car than I expected. You can be as awkward serving as you like if that's the main course!

He is just like you and me (nerds) doing the best he can at a role he isn't very suited for (public speaking). When you consider this and he still doesn't try and palm this stuff off I think he is doing great.

I think it's because he knows the presentation in and of itself is unimportant vs the takeaways delivered, so he doesn't bother wasting time on it specifically since it has low ROI given his speaking capabilities. And I suspect he dislikes acting/faking, so he wouldn't use precise scripts anyway.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#193
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"with 0-60 in 6secs" This part confuses me. The very fast 0-60 times that you see in electric cars are a function not of their massive engines or super tuned turbos, but of their instantaneous torque (as they are electric). Given that this is an electric car, and that its size and weight are commensurable to the (presumably) smaller electric motor, I would expect it to have similar 0-60 times. I just assumed that whe…

Because you can make more money by charging extra for performance. For an extreme example, the Model S P90D has a $10,000 Ludicrous Mode option which just flips a software switch.

No. The ludicrous mode is both a hardware and software upgrade. This was explained in the original ludicrous announcement.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#194
Some of the press pics and video from inside the car is really interesting. There is no instrument panel and the only screen is the center tablet. That would seem to be somewhat inconvenient to view things like speed. I wonder if that is hinting at a future with expanded autopilot were the driver can pay less attention to the instruments.

[1] - https://twitter.com/autonews_west/status/715761107508584448

[2] - https://twitter.com/autonews_west/status/715767638916472833

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A couple of counter points 1.) Design is subjective. I for one think while the Model S looks great, the X and 3 do not look that attractive. 2.) I really don't think "faster" really means much when are you talking about the majority of the mainstream automobile market. Top speed is low on the list of priorities for the average consumer. 3.) Cheaper is not free. I would save about $70 (based on today's gas prices in O…

To be fair, acceleration speed is most important, and zero-to-sixty in 6 seconds is competitive against $30k cars. (The fastest cars in this price range... like Ford Focus RS... is zero-to-sixty in 4.7 seconds. $35,900 for the RS.) Everyone appreciates a speedy acceleration, when merging into highways or getting out of the way. Its far more important to be quick on acceleration than to have a top-speed.

6 seconds is fast for a luxury sedan, but there are plenty of cars for less than $30k that will do zero-to-sixty in under 6 seconds. The Subaru WRX does 0-60 in under 5 seconds and costs ~$26k. That's the only 4 door car I can think of that's quite that quick, but there are plenty of performance oriented cars in that price range that are very quick.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#196
post #136

> Both cars will start at $30,000 or less after federal tax credits of $7,500 are applied. And both go at least 200 miles on a fully charged battery. The Bolt is a five-passenger hatchback that boasts cargo space and more legroom for rear passengers—front-seat backs are an inch thinner than in most cars. Looks almost identical specs-wise to Chevy Bolt, which will be available at the end of 2016 rather than 2017. http…

The Tesla is a bit cheaper. I don't think the Bolt has any Autopilot-like options. Far more importantly, the Bolt has no real fast charging infrastructure, either existing or planned. If you like to drive to places more than 200 miles away, there's still only one company with an EV that can reasonably do that.

Supercharging network should be irrelevant in my mind. If you need to drive more than 200 miles away, you need ICE. Assuming you could get a 100% full charge in 30 minutes at a supercharger, and 210 miles of range at 60mph, you are driving 3.5 hours and standing around for 30 minutes. Meanwhile, ICE can get you 400 miles, or 6.5 hours of driving at 60mph, on a 15 minute gas fill up. Electrics are great for a lot of reasons, but long road trips in a Model 3 is going to be a lot of time staring at clouds.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the periscope feed of a drive. You can see the horizontal screen better https://www.periscope.tv/w/1dRKZyRkpgNxB

The link does not let me view it now. Such a video should not be a live-only stream.

Yes you can. It's stored for playback

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe most modern cars you buy today (even low-end ones) have a GSM modem connected to a phone carrier which is probably active regardless of your payment for the "connected" features, so not much better unless you figure out a way to pull its power.

source? If so, I may need to go to my garage for a sec....

If your car has any "Telematics" system (OnStar, mBrace, ConnectedDrive, Car-Net, etc.) it definitely uses a SIM card to phone home. It varies based on the car, but I know as of ~MY2012, every single GM car comes standard with the OnStar functionality. I wouldn't be surprised if other manufacturers are the same.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, acceleration speed is most important, and zero-to-sixty in 6 seconds is competitive against $30k cars. (The fastest cars in this price range... like Ford Focus RS... is zero-to-sixty in 4.7 seconds. $35,900 for the RS.) Everyone appreciates a speedy acceleration, when merging into highways or getting out of the way. Its far more important to be quick on acceleration than to have a top-speed.

6 seconds is fast for a luxury sedan, but there are plenty of cars for less than $30k that will do zero-to-sixty in under 6 seconds. The Subaru WRX does 0-60 in under 5 seconds and costs ~$26k. That's the only 4 door car I can think of that's quite that quick, but there are plenty of performance oriented cars in that price range that are very quick.

0-60 in 6 seconds is really not all that fast anymore. Source: https://www.0-60specs.com/0-60-times/

Even the Volvo XC90 managed to slide under the bar at exactly 6 seconds. You really have to work hard to move downmarket enough to still be over 6. Sorry Kia owners.

Re: Model 3 Unveiling [video]

#200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the crowd is more unnerving than Elon's presentation style... really cringy whoops and whistles and "YES!".

They must've had an open bar while people were waiting for the presentation to start or something. The crowd is ridiculous.

Those people are drunk on themselves, no need for an open bar.
Post reply on HN