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Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by girvo »

skrebbel wrote: post #257
simonlc wrote: post #90

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I completely agree. I only really switched to OSX because getting node tools to work on windows and cygwin is a pita.

Wait, getting node to work on windows is a pita? I know of no language runtime and ecosystem that has better cross-platform support than Node (hm ok maybe Java also). I develop solely on Windows (I just like it better) and virtually all of NPM just works on my box. Even stuff people never tested elsewhere than on their Macs, it just works. Express, webpack, mocha, phantomjs, it's really quite impressive if you ask me…

node-gyp, though. In my experience, it's the native packages that cause problems, which is honestly to be expected because building a native library for Node to bind to in a cross-platform way is always going to be somewhat painful.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by randyrand »

deagle50 wrote: post #436
insulanian wrote: post #278

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Oh yes... That's one of the reasons I switched to OSX.

no kidding, I have a 4K monitor that looks awesome when hooked up my macbook and terrible when hooked up to my Windows desktop

Win10 on my dual 4ks looks great. What issues do you have?

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by technomancy »

jupiter2 wrote: post #384
takeda wrote: post #233

Surprised I don't see anyone else mentioning this. This looks to me like typical Microsoft strategy that they utilized a lot 25 years ago. 1. when not leader in given market, make your product fully compatible with competitor 2. start gaining momentum (e.g. why should I use Linux, when on Windows I can run both Linux and Windows applications) 3. once becoming leader break up compatibility 4. rinse and repeat Happened…

Thank you for mentioning this! Really bothered by all the positive comments, especially coming from savvy HN users. Gave this a long look and my main beef is that I couldn't possibly do anything on a Windows Machine in its' current state. Linux isn't just about running apps - there's a philosophy behind the system. Users first! As long as Microsoft continues to disrespect the rights of users in regard to privacy, dat…

> I find it especially offensive that ex-open source and ex-Linux users

The thing is, from an "open source" perspective, what they're doing is great and totally legit. From a free software perspective, it has a lot of potential to be suspicious and troubling. If all you care about is "the best technology; yay" rather than user freedoms, your concerns are moot.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by andersen1488 »

talawahdotnet wrote: post #242
crudbug wrote: post #234

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I think M$ is targeting more developers with *NIX background on the desktop side rather than Linux apps on server. So a bash support with uniform CLI is the end-game.

Yea, I think they are going after developers who use OS X because it is UNIXy. Smart move given how en vogue Apple laptops have become for developers these days.

This was my first thought as well. Windows 10 is starting to look like a serious option to me now.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by davesque »

msoad wrote: post #8

So what OS you're going to get when you run an application under this? So if I run this: node -e 'console.log(require("os").type())' What it's going to print?

Looks like, if a posix system is detected at compile time, it will return whatever it gets from the `uname` system call in `sys/utsname.h`:

https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/master/src/node_os.cc#L5...

Microsoft probably hard-codes a response of "Linux" (or whatever would be normal for Ubuntu) for that call to prevent Ubuntu binaries from freaking out.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by criddell »

r3bl wrote: post #486
peternicky wrote: post #451

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why don't you trust Lenovo?

I'm pretty sure that the answer comes down to one word: Superfish. Although, in my opinion, I wouldn't trust any laptop hardware company out there enough to use the system that came pre-installed with it, but that's for another discussion.

There has been a string of things, including Superfish.

There was also the Lenovo Solution Center problem. And the Lenovo BIOS shenanigans (or was it the Lenovo Service Engine?).

There have just been too many lapses in judgement at Lenovo. Either their competence is slipping or their ethics are. Either way, I'm done with them for now.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by ausjke »

Ubuntu desktop can do pretty much all Windows can do these days, not to mention mostly all I need is just a browser now. I spent 364 out of 365 days with a Ubuntu and it works fine(yes the one day left is for Turbotax that needs the Windows).

Maybe the real reason that MS is moving super fast towards open source nowadays is to damage the open source goodies from within after they failed to attack it heads on many years ago? I just don't trust MS and it's hard to change that after so many years' hostile move from its side.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by ageofwant »

mcpherrinm wrote: post #306
NateDad wrote: post #259

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No. No GUI applications (currently, and no announced future support... and I wouldn't bank on them doing it).

Fortunately X11 is "network transparent" and there's X11 servers for windows. It shouldn't actually be that hard to make this work (though the perf will probably be pretty bad in a naive implementation). At very worst you could SSH to localhost and X11-forward to the same host -- but you can optimize that.

Or you could just use ubuntu...

It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Post by davesque »

deagle50 wrote: post #157
plank wrote: post #115

Confused: can we now START or STOP bashing windows?

After they fix highdpi scaling

They're working on it. The rub now is that they can't handle (last I checked) using two monitors with significantly different DPIs. At least, that's how it was with my retina macbook and using an external monitor that was low DPI.
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