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Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#481

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It kinda makes me regret my MBP purchase last fall. I really wanted a Surface Pro but I couldn't deal with developing on Windows.

Couldn't you just boot linux on the surface?

Linux driver support for a lot of the surface hardware leaves much to be desired unless it's changed much since the last I looked.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#482
It's been a couple of years since Microsoft stopped developing their Xenix UNIX system and sold it to SCO so they could concentrate on OS/2 and DOS. It's been some years less since Microsoft started providing Unix command-line tools for their professional Windows series which has lately come to a halt too.

After all, there's not that much ground-breaking "news" in this story.

About the technical part:

1. I wish they wouldn't distribute it in cooperation with Canonical, a company with a reputation that is rapidly decreasing for very good reasons. 2. I, for one, would surely have preferred the `ksh` which came with earlier "Unix for Windows" packages, IIRC it was the "MKS ksh", but I guess they had a reason. 3. I'm afraid of what this means for the PowerShell.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#483

It's time that people stopped using the term 'Windows' for this operating system. The Free Software Foundation created the bulk of the userspace, under terms that allow anyone to share, modify and fork the programs, and then Microsoft came along with the one last missing piece of the puzzle - the kernel, and completed the full operating system, which, to be frank, users find completely unusable and worthless without…

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Windows, is in fact, GNU/Windows/NT, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows plus NT. GNU/Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another non-free component of a fully functioning Microsoft system made useful by the NT kernel, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the NT system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of NT which is widely used today is often called “GNU/Windows”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NT system, developed by Microsoft's NT team.

There really is a GNU/Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. GNU/Windows is the userspace: programs that you run as the user. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. GNU/Windows is normally used in combination with the NT kernel: the whole system is basically GNU with Windows added with NT added, or GNU/Windows/NT. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Windows/NT.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#484

Does this means that persistent* command line history will work out of the box on Windows? If this is the case, wow, we waited and waited and waited and it is finally here, thanks Ubuntu! *persistent: open command line, write something, close command line, open command line, arrow up\down shows last executed command. And yes, I know persistent command line history can be set via power shell, but it needs to be set (i…

A Scott Anselman article [1], mentions Clink [2] which appears to be a pretty fully implemented and persistent command line history. Don't know about up / down arrow though.

[1]: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MakingABetterSomewhatPrettierB...

[2]: http://mridgers.github.io/clink/

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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How in God's green earth did Canonical think helping Microsoft with this was a good idea for the Linux community?

-It solidifies Bash as the dev. shell of choice -It facilitates app cross comparability -For Canonical, it reinforces the idea that Ubuntu == Linux, which is really good for their bottom line -I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft forked over a solid amount of cash

As a dev, I don't use the screwed up bash on any system I work on. It just doesn't work.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a ThinkPad Yoga and an older ThinkPad T520. Both are pretty awful machines. Plus I really don't trust Lenovo anymore. If I were buying a Windows machine, the only one I would consider is the Microsoft Surface Book.

why don't you trust Lenovo?

I'm pretty sure that the answer comes down to one word: Superfish.

Although, in my opinion, I wouldn't trust any laptop hardware company out there enough to use the system that came pre-installed with it, but that's for another discussion.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It kinda makes me regret my MBP purchase last fall. I really wanted a Surface Pro but I couldn't deal with developing on Windows.

Couldn't you just boot linux on the surface?

I have a surface 3 and I think it is a really well engineered pc. I'm definitely happy with it. But I think the surface/surface pro line has features most other computers don't have. Such as the pen. And I think MS did do a lot of work designing those around Windows. So I'm just assuming a surface or surface pro would be more functional and better supported running windows. If you really wanted to run linux you probably have better options available to you. But you can technically use linux.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

#489
It's like i you had two friends your whole life, you needed one and you really liked the other but they lived in different cities and all of a sudden they move in to the same flat.

I am sure there is a firestorm of opinions in the hundreds of comments below this textbox but frankly I just want to say that this was the best fucking news I have had all year.

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