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Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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Maybe they'll use vacuums to create downforce. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/ki9rasv6uh... (It's the Chaparral 2J https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaparral_Cars#2J )

Chapparal, the famous 'sucker car' was the first ground-effects race car. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_(cars) So effective the sport made it illegal after just one season.

The Brabham was made illegal after one race IIRC.

Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

Perhaps the regular Dyson vacuums are different, but I have the handheld and it is amazing. The whole design of the handheld makes cleaning easier and it looks like a laser gun from a computer game.

I was going to go with the Dyson handheld. But found the laser gun hard to use in tight corners.

Ended up going with the Black and Decker. Slightly lower price, bigger battery, and the wand is a detachable hose

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Interesting. I used to know a vacuum cleaner repair technician who told me (anecdotally, no citation I can provide) that in her shop's experience Dyson accounted for about 5% of sales and 95% of repairs.

They do offer a good warranty ... the cyclone unit on our old one got so clogged up after cleaning up from some DIY that it didn't work adequately. We phoned them up, they listened to the noise and diagnosed it there and then. A few days later we had a brand new cyclone unit delivered. The thing was 4 years old at that point.

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The UK actually does great at making cars - so long as they're either small volume boutique supercars, racecars or the factory is managed by foreigners (such as Nissan). The big factories were sunk by their appalling labour relations, for which management must take some blame.

You're forgetting Honda (Swindon), BMW (Oxford), Ford (Dagenham)... The list goes on.

Yep, Jaguar Land Rover (Birmingham) too. And (IIRC) a lot of engine design for various manufacturers still happens in and around Brackley.

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They are expensive. But they work fine and they are ingeniously made. Each little bit can be taken off and cleaned. It's a very 'open' design for the user.

Didn't repair those I had so no opinion. My comment was about "Dyson did pioneer the bagless vacuum cleaners, and their technology works" It's louder then any other and cleaning results are worse. It's not remarkable tech.

>It's louder then any other and cleaning results are worse.

On the contrary, I bought a refurbished Dyson two years ago and I find it: 1) much quieter (I don't have to yell to speak over it); 2) it is much more reliable at getting everything out of my carpet than any vacuum I've ever owned.

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Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

Miele. Top-notch quality.

My mother has had several Mieles and they are quite good and durable but after trying my Dyson, she wants to change...

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Not meant to be negative, just another take on some of your points: * Dyson has a factory in a country with low wages. * Dyson uses modern styling in their product lines. * Dyson has a strong brand. (* Dyson knows about electrics) It sounds like you can replace Dyson with quite a lot of names. One of the human brain's strengths is pattern recognition. Wether true or not, we see patterns everywhere. But that applies t…

Sure. How many other vacuum companies are also making electric cars?

Although failed, the Sinclair C5 electric 'car' was built by the Hoover company in South Wales. Hoover made vacuum cleaners in the UK at the time rather than just offload them from a boat.

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On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

Go to any office in the UK and they'll have a Numatic Henry. Go to any factory and they'll have one of the bigger Numatic models. Get a professional cleaner to come to your house and 9 times out of 10 they'll bring a Henry.

It can't just be because of the cute face...

https://www.numatic.co.uk/

(no affiliation by the way, I just wasn't sure how to put the link inline!)

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Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

Go to any office in the UK and they'll have a Numatic Henry. Go to any factory and they'll have one of the bigger Numatic models. Get a professional cleaner to come to your house and 9 times out of 10 they'll bring a Henry. It can't just be because of the cute face... https://www.numatic.co.uk/ (no affiliation by the way, I just wasn't sure how to put the link inline!)

Henry Hoovers have serious fans :

http://i.imgur.com/fscSWvA.jpg

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This is great news. The car industry could really benefit from completely fresh competitors beyond Tesla. And whatever some people say, Dyson did pioneer the bagless vacuum cleaners, and their technology works. It would be cool if they could come up with some completely new how a "car" is made/designed. Beyond the environmental benefits, electric cars allow companies to completely rethink car design as all the constr…

On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

[Citation needed] Do you have links to these independent tests you cite?

A cyclone is a long established method of dust removal industrially, and an efficient method of doing so. Compared to a typical Hoover at the time they were introduced they are orders of magnitude better and more reliable. Since then Hoover and all the other manufacturers have basically copied, as far as they are able, everything Dyson does. Hardly indicative of a terrible product.

They can lack longevity due to use of plastics that tend to age harden over a decade, but that's about all I can fault them for, aside from moving production to Malaysia - but that's hardly unique in manfacturing.

Some of their other products have been less successful - the now discontinued washing machine was another transformative product miles ahead of alternatives. Sadly they couldn't make them profitably. The fan heater is much harder to like being 10x the cost of alternatives but not 10x better at heating a room.

Dyson cleaners frequently get Consumer's Association (UK independent home appliance tests) Best Buy. They are always towards the top as far as performance goes.

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