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Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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This is great news. The car industry could really benefit from completely fresh competitors beyond Tesla. And whatever some people say, Dyson did pioneer the bagless vacuum cleaners, and their technology works. It would be cool if they could come up with some completely new how a "car" is made/designed. Beyond the environmental benefits, electric cars allow companies to completely rethink car design as all the constr…

On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved.

It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

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For a short time in the early 1980s the British government part owned Jaguar, Land Rover and Mini through British Leyland. It didn't work very well (Tory government versus heavily unionised car industry) but it went better than DeLorean.

The UK actually does great at making cars - so long as they're either small volume boutique supercars, racecars or the factory is managed by foreigners (such as Nissan). The big factories were sunk by their appalling labour relations, for which management must take some blame.

You're forgetting Honda (Swindon), BMW (Oxford), Ford (Dagenham)... The list goes on.

Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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The UK actually does great at making cars - so long as they're either small volume boutique supercars, racecars or the factory is managed by foreigners (such as Nissan). The big factories were sunk by their appalling labour relations, for which management must take some blame.

You're forgetting Honda (Swindon), BMW (Oxford), Ford (Dagenham)... The list goes on.

Nissan (Sunderland) too, one of the highest productivity car factories in Europe.

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On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

Perhaps the regular Dyson vacuums are different, but I have the handheld and it is amazing.

The whole design of the handheld makes cleaning easier and it looks like a laser gun from a computer game.

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On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

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Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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That's a sort of inverted survivorship bias - you've seen "a number" break, presumably from similar usage if they're yours, or at least similar temperature/humidity/etc if they're from around where you live if they're from your friends or customers, and you feel that translates to all Dysons everywhere. The reality is that you've seen at most a few thousand if you're repairing them professionally. That probably isn't…

I assure you a few thousand is enough to know if they're consistently bad.

If the few thousand are taken randomly. Not so much if they're taken from the set of "those that broke".

Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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post #19

This is great news. The car industry could really benefit from completely fresh competitors beyond Tesla. And whatever some people say, Dyson did pioneer the bagless vacuum cleaners, and their technology works. It would be cool if they could come up with some completely new how a "car" is made/designed. Beyond the environmental benefits, electric cars allow companies to completely rethink car design as all the constr…

On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

Dyson is the best vaccuum cleaner I've ever had.

Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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post #19

This is great news. The car industry could really benefit from completely fresh competitors beyond Tesla. And whatever some people say, Dyson did pioneer the bagless vacuum cleaners, and their technology works. It would be cool if they could come up with some completely new how a "car" is made/designed. Beyond the environmental benefits, electric cars allow companies to completely rethink car design as all the constr…

On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

I bought a stylish Dyson vacuum cleaner once - one that didn't have a bag to hold dirt, so it 'wouldn't lose suction'.

It was exceedingly painful to empty - I had to take it outside because opening it spewed dust everywhere, then I had to put on gloves and scoop the dust and gunk out of the unit and put it into a garbage bag. Every time I did that I hated myself for buying into the 'bagless' Dyson marketing bullshit.

Re: Vacuum-maker Dyson is reportedly working on an electric car

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On the contrary. Dyson has not won any independent vacuum tests but usually ranks in the bottom half. Dyson is high price, mainly marketing with gimmicks not results. Dyson is the self marketing part of Jobs without the genius.

Won't argue because I haven't seen any tests, but I am surprised to read this because my current one is a Dyson and it cleans way better than any other one I've had before. It takes me like 5 times less to clean a room and the result is better, especially when carpets are involved. It could be that I've just always chosen badly though. Which vacuum would you recommend?

Miele. Top-notch quality.
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