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Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by f0code »

st3v3r wrote: post #60
f0code wrote: post #22

"That I shall not talk or act in ways that could make minority groups feel bullied, harassed, intimidated, stalked, stereotyped, or belittled; examples of minority groups include women, people of color, lesbians, gays, and people who are disabled, bisexual, transsexual, asexual, intersex, transgender, and gender-variant;" So as a member of the majority, I'm expressly the only person bound by these rules of behavior i…

"My allowed attendance would be contingent on remaining silent the entire time on premises." Only if you are incapable of acting like an adult human being. As someone who is also a member of the majority, I would find no problem in being able to follow the rules, because I can behave like an adult.

That is already expected of people. Why do we need to take a pledge before going to hear some people talk about code?

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by someguydave »

jamesdutc wrote: post #46

This is an odd perspective on inclusivity, but I understand where it comes from. I would think it would be well within the mandate of the conference organisers to pick talks that reflect the material they want to see presented and the conversation they want attendees to be able to participate in. The conference is a curated collection of talks, and will necessarily reflect an active political position held by the org…

"Almost no tech conference has the capability to seriously address systemic issues of inclusivity."

Out of curiousity can you describe how one could " address systematic issues of inclusivity"?

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by someguydave »

vitno wrote: post #15
fiatmoney wrote: post #8

You'd think that someone could just come out and say exactly which of his views are so terrible, instead of pointing at his entire multiple-book-length blog and "wow just wow"ing.

The character of Moldbug (which I don't even know if it is actually what the author truly believes, it was always designed as a pen name) is a neo-reactionary. Ex: He is definitely a racist, with the belief of genetic differences in attitude that contributed to slavery. [1] Now, I don't like those beliefs at all. I do think that LC made the right decision though. Inclusiveness is a good policy, and no matter how cert…

It's likely that many on Hacker News join you in your condemnation of 'right-thinking' persons who happened to have lived in the past. An unsolicited word of advice to this audience: challenge yourself by considering the worldview of your forefathers before summarily condemning them.

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by crb002 »

Embryonic CRISPR is here and humanity is not only hereditary. It's the genetics debate that needs to happen. Moldbug's racist viewpoint is now irrelevant.

How much should the State intervene? Wrath of Kahn and GATTACA were both dystopian. Roe v Wade will reopen soon on CRISPR grounds.

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by erikpukinskis »

jamesdutc wrote: post #46

This is an odd perspective on inclusivity, but I understand where it comes from. I would think it would be well within the mandate of the conference organisers to pick talks that reflect the material they want to see presented and the conversation they want attendees to be able to participate in. The conference is a curated collection of talks, and will necessarily reflect an active political position held by the org…

They stated that they accepted the talk on the merits during the anonymous review phase.

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by mcantelon »

vidarh wrote: post #56

One thing that belonging to a political fringe has taught me, is that either you decide to live your life in constant conflict, or you learn to ignore the politics of a person when it has no direct impact on a given situation, even when it to you is utterly distasteful. The latter leads to a far happier life. And often you'll find even people who hold views you find offensive can be perfectly nice people most of the…

Exactly. Orgs that don't accept "diversity of tactics" lose a lot of time to infighting.

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by [deleted] »

AKrumbach wrote: post #41

If your conference will dis-invite / "de-platform" people based on their opinion about topic {foo}, you are in fact hosting a conference about {foo} , regardless of what your name, official agenda, or spokespeople say. Kudos to LambdaConf for actually keeping on focus in the face of dissent.

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Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by mcantelon »

crb002 wrote: post #85

Embryonic CRISPR is here and humanity is not only hereditary. It's the genetics debate that needs to happen. Moldbug's racist viewpoint is now irrelevant. How much should the State intervene? Wrath of Kahn and GATTACA were both dystopian. Roe v Wade will reopen soon on CRISPR grounds.

Genetics are powerful. Twins that grow up apart in different environments often share traits/tastes to an unnerving degree.

Re: Wrestling With Inclusion at LambdaConf

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Post by mcantelon »

specialist wrote: post #54
passing-through wrote: post #6

For context, the project in question is https://github.com/urbit/urbit and the speaker is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin .

TIL: neoreactionary, anti-democratic blah blah blah aka libertarian fruitopia

Pretty much the opposite of libertarian, IIRC.
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