Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

techinasia.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

431–440 of 595 posts

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#431

Post by OSButler »

In my case they mocked themselves, as I'm working on an old Macbook model. I'd love to upgrade, but everything is still working. The things I like about the new Macbooks barely affect my work and if I spec one out to my preferred options, then it ends up with an astronomical price tag. It just seems like they are advancing in some areas (screen, touchpad, ...) but are stuck in the past in several others (memory, HDD, ...).

I'll most likely be getting a new Macbook once my current one finally decides to visit its ancestors. With that said, I'm actually impressed with its longevity, as none of my other PCs (desktops & laptops) ever lasted that long. So, I actually see running on old hardware as an impressive feat (unless you're a gamer).

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#432

Post by [deleted] »

specialist wrote: post #345
ams6110 wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're close, the poor in most cases have self-defeating money habits. Any time they get money, they spend it immediately on things that have a short term feel-good effect, because their life has so little of that otherwise. This might be junk food, cigarettes/booze/drugs, lottery tickets, restaurant meals, gadgets or other "bling" etc. They rarely have a person in their life who models delayed gratification and savi…

No. The singular defining quality of the poor is that they lack capital. This makes everything about being poor more expensive.

[deleted]

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#433

Post by dates »

ocean3 wrote: post #381
dates wrote: post #117

"Maybe Apple really does find the idea of hardware that can function for five years 'sad' and funny these days." I don't think this is true. Apple just replaced the motherboard on my 2011 Macbook Pro for free. I've also upgraded the RAM, HD to a SSD, Battery, & Fans. Its running soooo good I love it. The price of 5+ year old macbook pros, imacs, and mac pros on ebay is proof that apple does make hardware that lasts..…

free? Does that happen only in USA? Apple care in India quoted me around 400 dollars for replacement with 6 months warranty. No way i am buying second hand Apple hardware in India if service costs so much.

It depends on the model you have! Here is the link for more information: https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#434

Post by ryao »

ams6110 wrote: post #313
DickingAround wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poor people don't need to 'seem less poor'. They need to be less poor. And admitting you need to save is the first step to doing so. I wonder if this need to seem less poor so often is actually part of how some of them get poor; wasting money/effort trying to influence perception instead of spending it trying to change reality.

You're close, the poor in most cases have self-defeating money habits. Any time they get money, they spend it immediately on things that have a short term feel-good effect, because their life has so little of that otherwise. This might be junk food, cigarettes/booze/drugs, lottery tickets, restaurant meals, gadgets or other "bling" etc. They rarely have a person in their life who models delayed gratification and savi…

They should read things like YNAB:

http://www.youneedabudget.com

It is amazing how much money one has when one exercises restraint when spending it.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#435

Post by josinalvo »

leni536 wrote: post #360
EliRivers wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear this a lot, but the evidence indicates that the majority of humanity judge a person's worth on their assets, money and job title. Sometimes, physical appearance as well.

You don't have to listen to random strangers' judgments though.

Until you want a sex partner, a job, or just a friend

(I used to dismiss the importance of appearence as well. But the few days I do dress nice, everything changes)

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#436

Post by rorykoehler »

JohnBooty wrote: post #398
chillingeffect wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other responses disagree with you, but I agree with you... and I'm rather anti-consumerist (it's difficult to pull off completely...). In fact, I feel a bit silly having paid "only" $300 for my Samsung phone, having read your economic breakdown. I was imagining myself having an extra $200 for stuff... but I go through a lot of wasted time having "only" 16GB.. continuously moving stuff off of it... missed photos and v…

I really appreciate your reply! Yeah, sometimes (not always) the more expensive option is actually cheaper in the long run, or is at least a justifiable cost. Looking at the $/day or $/hour cost over the lifespan of a product is one way to get a better understanding of the "real" cost. The danger is that it can be easy to justify too many of those "well, it's only $0.10 a day!" purchases because they can really add u…

The reason I decided to go cheap with smartphone is because I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 with the intention of using it for at least 5 years but the utter piece of junk broke stone cold dead after 2 years and 3 months. I basically got robbed for half the value of the phone because of the attitude that old hardware is bad (read unprofitable) hardware and therefore we don't build stuff to last anymore. Same with the iPhone before it but in Apples case their revolutionary new iOS update made my phone basically unusable. So I voted with my wallet and went for a mid range Android option for $250.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#438

Post by peeters »

bluthru wrote: post #354
SyneRyder wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have two 10-year old PCs in active use on my desk right now - both are running Windows 10, one is playing back Netflix right now while I type this on a third (brand new) machine. The kicker? Those two 10-year old "PCs" are actually MacBooks. They still run fine & do everything I need those machines to do - but I had to install Windows 10 on them, because Apple stopped supporting their own hardware. A machine that m…

I don't think it's fair to expect Apple to support 32-bit processors anymore. OS X will run on Core2Duo, which is nearly 10 years old. My parents' iMac is a 2006 and runs El Cap.

> I don't think it's fair to expect Apple to support 32-bit processors anymore.

It might not be fair to expect it, but it's absolutely fair to count it against how Apple supports their customers.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#439

Post by virtualritz »

rileymat2 wrote: post #60
waspleg wrote: post #41

I completely agree with the author of the article. Apple is the real-world incarnation of the economic premise of Huxley's "A Brave New World". This was just the mask dropping for a second to pander to the faithful. I'd like to add, as someone who works at K12 public high school, that I've seen the reality of the article played out. My building is 100% free lunch, most are extremely poor, and yet there is a sizable n…

I am not sure if I was suddenly without money, the iPhone would be what I would want to give up. The utility of the device is incredible: Mapping. Phone. Internet. Email. Alarm Clock. Calendaring. Photography. If anything we should work to get smart phones in the hands of the poor. It would be a great way to improve their lives for a somewhat modest cost. I am not sure it is all for looks. Maybe we could quibble abou…

Why do you need an iPhone for that? A Moto G will do all of that, at a fraction of the price.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

#440

Post by mangeletti »

thenadamgoes wrote: post #424
mangeletti wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why? Because they don't want to look poor or be thought of as such. This is not necessarily correct. A lot of people still regard iPhones and other high-end smartphones as being something of a luxury. They are a luxury when you compare them to what we need for survival (food, water, shelter), but there is something to be said about a small rectangular device that, once purchased, can provide nearly free: 1. enterta…

You say the flashlight is minor but I'll be damned if I don't use it almost every day.

You're right - same here. I removed that qualifier.
Post reply on HN