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That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Post by makomk »

ido wrote: post #161
ethbro wrote: post #153

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The K12 public school (I'm assuming Title 1 from the free lunches) comment struck especially close to home. A few years ago, in helping my mother get ready for a new year of kindergarten teaching at a similar school, she asked if I could do anything about the computers (slow, unreliable, etc etc). ... In ~2013, the best processor of the four machine lot was a 2.8ghz P4. With 2GB of RAM. It had obviously been cobbled…

Surely that pentium 4 has no trouble showing youtube videos?

Pentium 4's pretty bad by modern standards, unfortunately. It's well over a decade old and wasn't all that great even when it was introduced. I think the cut-off for "good enough to be used today" is somewhere around the Core 2 Duo which was introduced a decade ago and was a huge step up from the Pentium 4.

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Post by js2 »

zanny wrote: post #331
js2 wrote: post #163

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iphones are absolutely just for prestige I have an iPhone 6S (and previously an iPhone 5) on Verizon, through my employer. Personally, my wife has a Nexus 4 and my daugther a Moto G, both on T-Mobile pre-paid. Both of them tell me about crappy network coverage, poor camera image quality, and so forth. I'm not saying these aren't perfectly acceptable alternatives when you're on a budget or are frugal or these just are…

I agree the lowest tier of phones cameras are not as good as an extremely expensive phone camera. Besides the whole I want to actually own computers in my possession part, part of the reason I have an S4 is for camera fidelity. My grandmother has a Note 4, predominantly for its good camera. But we are not talking about luxurious features. A Moto G camera still takes better photos than almost any consumer camera from…

> It does the job.

Certainly. Again, was just addressing it's not only prestige. Look, I own a Nutribullet. It does the job. But it's a complete frustration to use on a daily basis. I'm replacing it with a Vitamix at like 3X the cost, because I'm tired of dealing with the Nutribullet's quirks. And that's just a fricken blender. :-)

Re: That awkward moment when Apple mocked good hardware and poor people

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Post by Kalium »

DickingAround wrote: post #287
skywhopper wrote: post #184

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> There are capable smartphones for much cheaper then an iPhone that could get the job done. That's what GP was likely getting at. True enough. And yet, if you yourself are not actually poor, you may not realize the value that a marginal luxury like an iPhone or Air Jordans or a top brand purse (sorry, I don't know what the hot brand of purses is atm) can bring to someone in that situation. Spending a few hundred dol…

Poor people don't need to 'seem less poor'. They need to be less poor. And admitting you need to save is the first step to doing so. I wonder if this need to seem less poor so often is actually part of how some of them get poor; wasting money/effort trying to influence perception instead of spending it trying to change reality.

If you asked them, they would say that they definitely need to seem less poor. It brings a measure of status, easing their way through daily social affairs.

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Post by bluthru »

SyneRyder wrote: post #77
rockshassa wrote: post #12

I just can't bring myself to feel the author's anger, in any capacity. He wants to position this as a jab against those who build their own PCs, but that is utterly irrelevant. What percentage of those 600 million five-year-old PCs do you really think are being thoughtfully maintained by modders? Does the author realize that most people do not want the responsibility of maintaining their own hardware? Or that they do…

I have two 10-year old PCs in active use on my desk right now - both are running Windows 10, one is playing back Netflix right now while I type this on a third (brand new) machine. The kicker? Those two 10-year old "PCs" are actually MacBooks. They still run fine & do everything I need those machines to do - but I had to install Windows 10 on them, because Apple stopped supporting their own hardware. A machine that m…

I don't think it's fair to expect Apple to support 32-bit processors anymore. OS X will run on Core2Duo, which is nearly 10 years old. My parents' iMac is a 2006 and runs El Cap.

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Post by rdtsc »

rileymat2 wrote: post #60
waspleg wrote: post #41

I completely agree with the author of the article. Apple is the real-world incarnation of the economic premise of Huxley's "A Brave New World". This was just the mask dropping for a second to pander to the faithful. I'd like to add, as someone who works at K12 public high school, that I've seen the reality of the article played out. My building is 100% free lunch, most are extremely poor, and yet there is a sizable n…

I am not sure if I was suddenly without money, the iPhone would be what I would want to give up. The utility of the device is incredible: Mapping. Phone. Internet. Email. Alarm Clock. Calendaring. Photography. If anything we should work to get smart phones in the hands of the poor. It would be a great way to improve their lives for a somewhat modest cost. I am not sure it is all for looks. Maybe we could quibble abou…

I have money and the utility of iPhone is what I don't want. Instead opted for a cheap Moto G basic model 4-5 years ago and still happy with it.

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Post by leni536 »

zepto wrote: post #280
evook wrote: post #221

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But you know that the iCloud is moving from aws to the Google Cloud at the Moment?

Yes but the data is encrypted by Apple and Google can't read it.

So..., Apple can read it? How is it any better?

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Post by julianozen »

vbezhenar wrote: post #32

I can't imagine how I would replace my laptop with iPad. Some tasks are definitely doable: Web browsing, Mail processing, Music listening, Skype (though chatting on iPad is terrible because you have to switch around all the time, losing your focus, may be split apps might help, can't experience it, because my iPad have RAM like 15-year old PC). Generally speaking for power user every activity on iPad is strictly wors…

Apple has already explained this.

Car vs Trucks. Apple isn't trying to replace your professional tool.

Apple is trying to make a computer that is easy to use, can handle some light tasks that some people need occasionally, can stream video lightly and can play lots of games.

You need a truck. Most people just need cars

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Post by eropple »

simonh wrote: post #285
alienbaby wrote: post #236

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obsoletion built into the product roadmap

And yet Apple devices have longer software support lifetimes than any Android devices and better resale values for a longer time. That hardly sounds like a set of characteristics you'd associate with products designed to become obsolete.

Is Android the right comparison? Because I don't think Android when I think about my barely useful iPad 2 (because Android tablets are tire fires), I think of the Pentium III Thinkpad that I use for distraction-free writing. They're both about as useful to me, and one is as old as a high school sophomore.

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Post by blackhaz »

Reading this on a 2009 MacBook Pro with SSD, working perfectly fast for my tasks, with Thinkpad T400 running FreeBSD nearby. I think they're running out of ideas why would I need to upgrade. Definitely not doing it for a new fancy UI animation. Just imagine: a content that scrolls down and then smashes into the screen boundary, bounces back and then reaches equilibrium slowly. My ass...

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Post by leni536 »

EliRivers wrote: post #292
kdamken wrote: post #136

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Financial worth comes from your net worth, yes. But your worth as a human being isn't related to any of that.

I hear this a lot, but the evidence indicates that the majority of humanity judge a person's worth on their assets, money and job title. Sometimes, physical appearance as well.

You don't have to listen to random strangers' judgments though.
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