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Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by nemo44x »

jrockway wrote: post #219
nemo44x wrote: post #130

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Chicago is so incredibly cheap compared to NYC or SF. You can actually afford to own something in the most desirable parts of Chicago and can still have the benefit of not having to own a car in many cases. I thought about relocating to Chicago (it's a great, underrated city) and was shocked how cheap the rent was in places like Lincoln Park. I could just buy a place. I can't say that about NYC or SF where rents are…

Have to agree. I grew up in Chicago and moved to New York about 4 years ago. My W2 income in NYC is about 3x higher than it was in Chicago, though I am better at my job now than I was then so it's not all a cost-of-living adjustment. Anyway, I've begun the house search in New York City. I'm looking for a 1 bedroom apartment, in some place like Brooklyn Heights, Carrol Gardens, Gowanus, etc. Not Midtown Manhattan or T…

Good luck on the search - NYC is its own animal when it comes to real estate. $700,000 isn't going find much except maybe a studio. I've seen 1 bedrooms in that range but they are generally undesirable units in an otherwise nice building. Plus you still have the maintenance fee's and taxes.

I'm not an expert but my opinion is the NYC housing market isn't a deal right now or even a fair value. I'm not saying it's a bubble, but it's certainly not cheap. If I stay here I'm just going to keep saving and see if I get lucky with a housing dip and my savings intact.

Plus, if you buy into a co-op (more common in Manhattan I believe) the purchase requirements are steep. Often 30% down, 2 years mortgage/maintenance/taxes in liquid cash available, among other things. High entry requirements but creates some stability.

I really think renting is cheaper than buying in NYC right now when you factor in all the costs. You get a nice tax write off with owning, to be sure, but it's a wash I've figured. I don't see how prices can keep getting higher and higher right now. But I thought that 4 years ago too in places in Brooklyn and I was wrong.

What's funny is my only other real option is to move to London since my wife is from there and would eventually like to move back I think. Their housing market is in fact a bubble and I simply wouldn't buy anywhere near there right now.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by zo1 »

exadeci wrote: post #298
talloaktrees wrote: post #290

I've done some data visualization of the spread sheet data: https://github.com/jrenner/hacker-news-salaries-data

Nice, unfortunately there are lots of trolls just spamming or creating fake inequalities for example 2527 and 2528 the only difference is the gender

Also, some of them put their monthly salary as opposed to the "yearly" one. A South African monthly salary looks a whole lot similar to say a UK yearly one. E.g. ZAR40000 / month vs GBP45000/year.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by akazn »

halfaton wrote: post #151

"you can export the whole sheet and perform your own analysis or just copy the sheet and use Google Spreadsheet to run formulas and/or generate charts/graphs." I can't see a way to get the data out of there other than saving as a html page, there are no standard google docs controls available. Am I missing something?

You can use google sheets IMPORTRANGE function to make your own copy. For example:

=IMPORTRANGE("1a1Df6dg2Pby1UoNlZU2l0FEykKsQKttu7O6q7iQd2bU", "'Salaries'!A:L")

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by jjuel »

kayoone wrote: post #317
trymas wrote: post #314

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TL;DR: in Europe salaries are usually discussed after taxes, whereas that amount with all taxes (on both employee and employer) can raise that sum around 2 times or more. Don't forget the huge system difference. Are those salaries before taxes or after taxes? Europeans like to know their salary after taxes. Health benefits, PTO, parental leave? In US it's totally under your company's grace, where in Europe most of th…

At least where i live (Germany) salaries are never compared after taxes because the tax situation is very individual and influenced hugely by a lot of things like marriage, kids and other income. Also health care payments are influenced by a lot of factors as well. So it makes little sense to compare net pay. And even then, a good salary for a software developer with good experience would be 60k-80k pre taxes here, u…

Where in the US are Juniors regularly getting 100k to 150k?I need to move if this is the case.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by jschwartzi »

rickyc091 wrote: post #338
jon-wood wrote: post #333

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I'll never understand the pitiful amount of time off US employees get - here in the UK I get 30 days holiday time a year, and unless I were to utterly take the piss being sick isn't taken out of that, its just accepted as one of those things that happens.

The issue is more people don't even use up the vacation days. People in the states are workaholics. It's competitive, there's the fear of losing their jobs if they are out of the office for too long.

Vacations cost money.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by graedus »

plaguuuuuu wrote: post #218
aerovistae wrote: post #201

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I just have a hard time believing that. It's a funny contradiction because I know perfectly well I'm not really much happier now at $95k than I was at $60k, or working in a park for minimum wage a decade ago, but at the same time there's so much I'd like to do that I don't because I'm trying to save money, and at $323k it would be pretty effortless to save massively and do whatever I wanted.

The things you want to do start to expand when you have more money, plus in the first place your budget for mundane shit blows out due to lifestyle inflation. If you socialise with other people in the same income bracket, it's going to happen.

Right, this will naturally happen for most people, but if you're mindful of this effect you can work to curb it if you choose.

There are people in the top 1% who "feel poor" - because they live in expensive homes, drive luxury cars, feel the need to send their kids to the most expensive private schools, and have friends who own yachts - and there are millionaires who basically live like they make $80,000. I would aim more toward the latter (although obviously going too far in that direction can be unhealthy too).

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by tinalumfoil »

anonfunction wrote: post #301

For anyone wanting to download it, which I don't believe it is set to allow since there was no such UI present to allow it I found that this link[1] downloads the spreadsheet in CSV format: 1. https://spreadsheets.google.com/feeds/download/spreadsheets/...

Anyone know why Excel's giving me errors about circular references?

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by danielrm26 »

jotux wrote: post #214
danielrm26 wrote: post #154

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Maybe because it's called a simple spreadsheet of salaries. Including that other stuff would make it not just about salaries, and not simple. So other than that, spot on.

The title of this post is a question: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries? My comment is addressing this question, and more generally, this recent interest in posting your salary.

I read "why not?" as a rhetorical intro, similar to "now presenting!"

I don't think it was a question.

Re: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries?

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Post by danielrm26 »

jotux wrote: post #214
danielrm26 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe because it's called a simple spreadsheet of salaries. Including that other stuff would make it not just about salaries, and not simple. So other than that, spot on.

The title of this post is a question: Why not just a simple spreadsheet of salaries? My comment is addressing this question, and more generally, this recent interest in posting your salary.

Your points are solid regardless. They're just not good criticism of what was created, based on his description.

Still, great ideas on your part.

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