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Re: iPhone SE

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Post by Raphmedia »

distances wrote: post #189
Raphmedia wrote: post #98

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France is the size of my backyard. Of course the cost of infrastructure & maintenance is going to be lower. That being said, yes, we are getting very bad price on that side of the ocean because of price inflation.

Always the same excuse that doesn't even hold up. * US population density: 35/km2 * Finland population density: 18/km2 It's not about the size of the country, it's because in Europe the infrastructure owners are required to let others in [1]. In US the operators are natural monopolies with very little incentives for competition. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operato...

I am from Canada.

Our population density is 3.7/km2 and infrastructure owners are also required to let other in. The prices are still very high.

The coverage is big and winter put a big load on the infrastructure.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by taspeotis »

NamTaf wrote: post #655
NamTaf wrote: post #608

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Why, when you have 14 days to just take it back no questions asked?

To elaborate since I'm apparently being downvoted and can't edit: In Australia, which I'm assuming the parent is part of since they specified AUD$1400, Apple specifically allows for a 14 day return policy [1]. You could drop AUD$1400 on the phone, find it does not suit your needs, then return it and get something else no questions asked. In that sense, Apple specifically alleviates that anxiety of dropping AUD$1400 o…

> get something else

For two years Apple _didn't sell_ a flagship 4"-or-smaller phone. So that "something else" was an Android phone. Which, if you're locked into the iOS ecosystem (or just plain like it) ... would be a bit anxiety inducing.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by tcfunk »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #52
tsunamifury wrote: post #35

No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.

It's because Apple has realised 3D touch is bad and it's also a very expensive feature to add to a phone. The real question is if they will admit it was a misstep by removing it from their flagship model or just keep pretending and keep it in. Companies really hate admitting they were wrong so my bet is that they are stuck with it for the forseeable future.

I'm seriously surprised at the amount of hate on here for 3D touch. I've been waiting for pressure-sensitive interfaces on phones since they came out! And now it's here and everyone hates it!

I for one hope they keep it around and just work to improve it's accuracy and discoverability in future iterations.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by toxican »

bdrool wrote: post #600
maccard wrote: post #554

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Most of the apps that are installed on my iOS device are ~100MB - slack (140) Snapchat (140) Spotify (100) viber(100) messenger (97) Airbnb (97) Etsy/Yelp/Starbucks/ are all roughly 70MB - Facebook is ~150 I believe. The worst part is that all of those apps are pretty much webviews...

Facebook's app has a super-bloated > 100MB binary: http://quellish.tumblr.com/post/126712999812/how-on-earth-th... I think they have something like 150+ iOS devs, so they're almost up to a megabyte per dev!

This is partly why I just stick to the mobile version of the site. It's a slightly buggy sometimes (repetitious frontpage), but it works well enough and it isn't draining my battery in the background for no reason.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #687
afreak wrote: post #104

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France and Austria, unlike Canada are very much dense so the infrastructure required to setup an LTE/UMTS/etc network is less costly. To travel from Vancouver to the next principal Canadian city (Calgary), it requires 900 KM of driving and there's only really one metropolitan area of sorts between the two, meaning that you're going to be setting up cell towers that handle only so much traffic in a day. As a result, t…

For the joke, I studied mobile networking in Canada, and we studied how actually, the dense areas are what cost the most money to the mobile operator. The "we are a big country" is just a marketing stunt.

Agreed. This is a sad excuse used by mediocre gov't and corporate entities to offer poor service and value for money.

For example, when I visit relatives in the Frankfurt region (Mainz), I am always amazed by how similar geographically and demographically it is to the greater Toronto area in Ontario. Population and industry wise Toronto and Frankfurt are very similar -- similar financial sector jobs, similar population densities.

And yet their infrastructure is _far_ superior. I take the train from Frankfurt to Mainz in like 20 minutes. From the Mainz train station there is integrated light rail and bus to a whole network of suburbs and villages, right out into the countryside. If I want to go for a hike in a forest preserve, I don't even need a car necessarily, I can take a streetcar and a bus to many very nice places.

Accessibility of food -- groceries, farmer's markets, restaurants. All better.

And yes, the telecoms infrastructure is far superior value for the money.

North America has let itself fall behind for several decades.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by ProAm »

ricardobeat wrote: post #373
ProAm wrote: post #323

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All Apple products are significantly overpriced, how their consumers do not realize the are being taken advantage of is beyond me.

Are they? Flagship models from the competition always cost about the same, especially on monthly plans.

I was speaking more to the entire apple product line. Laptops, PC's, phones. Apple users easily pay on average 1/3 more for comparable hardware. Their software used to be of higher quality, but that is no longer the case.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by ProAm »

duderific wrote: post #462
ProAm wrote: post #323

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All Apple products are significantly overpriced, how their consumers do not realize the are being taken advantage of is beyond me.

What does "taken advantage of" mean in this context? No one is forcing them to buy anything. If someone doesn't feel the price is justified, for anything, they shouldn't buy it.

Some people do not know better and that is where the 'taken advantage of' comes from. It is buyer beware, but to me it's a scummy business practice.

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by jug »

dkonofalski wrote: post #490
ino wrote: post #440

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Start using the keyboard trackpad for moving the cursor, selecting and deleting words, paragraphs or the whole text input. It's the killer app.

Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean by "keyboard trackpad"? Is this on iOS or what? Edit : HOLY WHAT!?! How did I not know that this exists?!?! I just figured it out. If you didn't know what it is, like me, then pull up any place where you can input text. Type something in and then Force Touch anywhere on the keyboard while it's showing. Your cursor will move with your finger like a trackpad. That's amazing.

This isn't even the end of it. Just to clarify, besides moving it like on a trackpad, you can force touch the "keyboard" while still holding down your finger, and it'll select the word underneath. Force touch again and everything will be deselected. All while you're still in the "trackpad mode".

Re: iPhone SE

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Post by chenster »

ino wrote: post #440
makecheck wrote: post #419

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You know, until you mentioned it just now, I’d forgotten my phone even has 3D Touch. It had been literally weeks since I last thought to use force-touch for anything, mostly because there is zero indication where it will work. And it is half-baked in the sense that when I do activate 3D Touch, it’s usually by accident. It is almost the same gesture as deleting apps on the home screen! I go to delete an app, press-and…

Start using the keyboard trackpad for moving the cursor, selecting and deleting words, paragraphs or the whole text input. It's the killer app.

It's a nice feature. However, I found it's hard to get it right to use kb as a mouse with 3D touch. Sometimes it just wont' register no matter how hard and fast I press down. Very frustrating.

Apple, are you listening?

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