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Re: iPhone SE
#682Earlier quoted context omitted.
Discoverability is incredibly important though. I can see it being useful in games, but there's no reason it should be a core part of how normal apps function since it's not discoverable. Your average user is using over a dozen apps; absent UI clues, there's no way they are going to know which parts of each of the many different screens in each app can interact with it, and what specifically it'll do.
So far I have yet to discover an application that has a 3D touch function which is inaccessible otherwise. For me, the good use of the tech is shortcuts: It is great to force touch fantastical icon and directly create a new event rather than opening the app, going to the correct screen and then tapping the new event option. A lot of features on PCs have discoverability problems, I have, for example, encountered a few…
> So far I have yet to discover an application that has a 3D touch function which is inaccessible otherwise.
It gives you (a bit of) pressure sensitivity in painting apps (Sketches, Paper, Procreate).
Re: iPhone SE
#683Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yup! The technicians shown in the video said they usually have around 50 "upgrades" a day done in the shop and this techniques has been around since April 2015. Worst comes to be worst, Huaqiangbei has tons of vendors who sell iPhone scrape parts so an accidental damage can be easily "replaced" and fixed up. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of the technicians were Foxconn trained workers.
Are you in China? (This is not a criticism) your grammar sounds as though you may be Chinese. I wonder how many people in the China tech scene read HN?
I'm in China but I can only speak for me - I read HN everyday.
Re: iPhone SE
#684What does SE mean?
Steve Edition
Re: iPhone SE
#685Earlier quoted context omitted.
> No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. 1) 3D Touch is not that important a part of the UI anyway, as devices are fully functional without it. 2) Developers will add it to their apps anyway, to entice high end users -- it's a very competitive landsc…
> 2) Developers will add it to their apps anyway, to entice high end users -- it's a very competitive landscape for apps, so they can't afford not too, even if it's only in half the new iPhone models. App developer here. Patently false. I actually haven't implemented 3D touch in any app. Want to guess how many support requests I've received for it? Zero.
>App developer here. Patently false. I actually haven't implemented 3D touch in any app. Want to guess how many support requests I've received for it? Zero.
Well, I said "will add it to their apps anyway", Not "already have added it". And I'm talking about flagship apps , the kind everyone has on their home screens, not any random app or developer.
It's not a "no true scotchman" either. Obviously I know that not all of the smaller/casual/fart/etc apps are gonna get it -- heck, I've got several old apps that haven't been updated for even for far more important changes (like Retina assets or larger screen sizes).
So, if you make "Funtime Googly Eyes" or "Milan Metro timetables" you might not add 3D Touch. But apps like Facebook, Twitter, Gmaps, Dropbox, Gmail, Evernote, Instamatic, Flipboard, Procreate, VSCO, etc, are sure gonna add it. (and lots of smaller apps wanting to differentiate themselves too, but all the big ones are getting it sooner or later -- some already have).
Re: iPhone SE
#686I'm one of those hold outs. I had a iPhone 6 for a month and it literally gave me anxiety because I couldn't thumb around Spotify and other apps like I was used too. I traded it in for a 5s and have been using it ever since. I figured I would have to keep it until they stopped putting iOS updates on it. Really glad they did this.
If you don't mind me asking, why that give you anxiety?
It is annoying that I'm constantly loosening my grip on my phone (and potentially dropping it) so my thumb can get the reach it needs to hit the back button.
I've dropped my iPhone6 too many times to count and I'm just lucky my screen hasn't shattered. I can see how someone might get anxiety from this.
Re: iPhone SE
#687Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am always surprised by these expansive US plans. In France for instance, you can have 50 GB LTE for 20 € per month (with Free). In Austria, 10 GB LTE for 15 € is not uncommon.
France and Austria, unlike Canada are very much dense so the infrastructure required to setup an LTE/UMTS/etc network is less costly. To travel from Vancouver to the next principal Canadian city (Calgary), it requires 900 KM of driving and there's only really one metropolitan area of sorts between the two, meaning that you're going to be setting up cell towers that handle only so much traffic in a day. As a result, t…
For the joke, I studied mobile networking in Canada, and we studied how actually, the dense areas are what cost the most money to the mobile operator.
The "we are a big country" is just a marketing stunt.
Re: iPhone SE
#688For the rest of the world: 4 inch = 10.16 cm
Re: iPhone SE
#689$399 USD is great, but why are we still stuck with 16 GB of storage on base model phones? You can barely put a day's worth of music on your phone and you cannot always stream via services like Spotify. Spotify accounts for 2 GB of traffic per month on my phone and some plans are barely affordable when you want more than that--fortunately I can do up to 6 GB before I am traffic shaped, but that isn't the say the same…
That's part of the reason I switched to Android. I spend $250, get a micro sd slot and pretty much all the features I want or would use. The camera is the only thing I miss from the iphone but it's not the end of the world as the camera in the Android isn't exactly terrible.
Coincidentally it's also why I went off contract. Much cheaper to buy phone outright and buy 3gb of pay as you go data a month than get locked into an absurd and useless contract.
Re: iPhone SE
#690No 3D touch is a very odd fragmentation. You'd think they'd want to shore up their devices to be completely compatible with this across the spectrum to motivate developers to use it as a key part of their UX. Now when only X So your apps have to optionally use 3D Touch, Pencil, adaptive layout, fingerprint, and several other interactions that only cover fractions of their hardware line.
It's kind of a shame to see so much hate for a neat feature. I think a lot of non developers gave Apple shit for 3D touch as just another gimmick because they don't see the fundamental interaction problem that it solved. Long holds on mobile are excruciating interactions for people, and 3D touch fixes that. It allows the user to reach a deeper level of contextual actions, without forcing them to wait like a long tap…
In my view it would have been OK if force touch had been equivalent to a long hold. The problem is that force touch and long hold do different things.