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Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by jcsnv »

temphn wrote: post #41
Animats wrote: post #26

This might be "false personation" under California law. See California penal code 529.[1] This is slightly different from identity theft. It's a criminal offense. The key elements of this offense are that someone else impersonated you in some way, and they derived some benefit from doing so. Because this is a criminal offense, AngelList's TOS's arbitration clause does not apply. You can file a police report with the…

Are you seriously advocating reporting someone to the police based on a one sentence secondhand account from a single dumb Hacker News front page post? You have zero context for what happened here (could well be user error!) and yet you are encouraging an angry mob to go and SWAT someone. If you want to play that game, I'm sure that filing false police reports -- or encouraging others to do so -- is a flagrant violat…

Why is this getting down voted?

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by jcsnv »

Was the project based off of something you did with your employer? I don't know why this thread is so angry, when this could have been a user error.

Everyone should put down their pitchforks till we get more information. This is something HN REALLY needs to work on imo.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by nathancahill »

Cartwright2 wrote: post #90
halotrope wrote: post #56

Thank you for sharing the news. I have just deleted my account. In case someone has problems as well finding out how: 1. Click your profile picture on the top right corner 2. Click settings in the dropdown. 3. Click Delete account 4. ? 5. Profit

Before deleting your account you should edit out and overwrite as much information as possible. Things like your name, e-mail, and any other fields should be falsified before deleting. You have no way of knowing if their "delete" mechanism just flips a deleted bit or if it actually erases your data. The problem, in this case, is that the company might notify your employer that you're making those changes. Not sure wh…

It flips a delete bit. But here's the bigger problem: your pages return a 404 error page with status code 200, so Google takes a long time to clear them from their cache (real 404s clear semi-instantly).

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by oldmanjay »

JupiterMoon wrote: post #35
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you have authorized them to do this under the Terms and Conditions of course.....

No! If an offence is criminal it can't be magically made OK by a contract. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

What is it about not being a lawyer (psychiatrist, economist, whatever) that makes people feel their contributions, though unqualified and generally incorrect, are still valuable? Is there a magical state of not-being that I've never picked up?

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by hnal943 »

jcsnv wrote: post #121
temphn wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you seriously advocating reporting someone to the police based on a one sentence secondhand account from a single dumb Hacker News front page post? You have zero context for what happened here (could well be user error!) and yet you are encouraging an angry mob to go and SWAT someone. If you want to play that game, I'm sure that filing false police reports -- or encouraging others to do so -- is a flagrant violat…

Why is this getting down voted?

Because Animats is suggesting that the OP file a police report, not randoms from the internet. He then says if enough people (i.e. customers of AngelList) complain, they may be heard. There's nothing untoward about referring someone who believes they've been victimized to the police.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by logfromblammo »

oldmanjay wrote: post #124
JupiterMoon wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No! If an offence is criminal it can't be magically made OK by a contract. I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

What is it about not being a lawyer (psychiatrist, economist, whatever) that makes people feel their contributions, though unqualified and generally incorrect, are still valuable? Is there a magical state of not-being that I've never picked up?

Generally, it's because we feel that layman opinions on how the law work should affect how it actually works in a democratic society.

For instance, civil forfeiture, wherein property can be taken from a person who has not been proven guilty of a crime in a fair trial, is widely rejected by the public, even when the opinion poll uses the most biased questions possible. (i.e. Should drug dealers be allowed to keep the profits from their crimes if they escape conviction and punishment on a technicality?)

Also, a jury verdict is little more than an aggregated bunch of layman opinions.

The opinion of the general public is that software should not have bugs in it. Also, it should be gratis and always keep up with the latest GUI and HID fashion trends. As a software professional, I often do additional work to meet those public expectations, even if it has no technical merit. That's because the opinion of the customer matters, when they are employing the experts to work on their behalf.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by dchest »

iopq wrote: post #76
dchest wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, every giving would be stealing. If I gave you something, you didn't steal it from me. Likewise, if I gave you the right to impersonate me in particular circumstances, it's not a criminal offense if you do.

If your Windows EULA said "Microsoft can take any of your property" they still can't steal from you just because you agreed to it.

Yes, you can agree to transfer all of your property to Microsoft in exchange for a Windows license. But including this in EULA will not work though, as there are limits on what you can agree to without signature or notary.

Re: Tell HN: AngelList told my employer that I'd updated my profile

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Post by DonHopkins »

bachback wrote: post #51
MichaelBurge wrote: post #8

Depending on the details, it could be a minor felony for fraud.

AngelList is likely trying to determine whether this is a real company. How is that felony or fraud?

Has anyone tried to determine is AngelList is a real company?

Their web site certainly claims they are, but I've never heard anything back from my repeated emails to team@angel.co, and I don't see them posting anything here. Even Sourceforge has better community outreach and reputation management. How is that not irony?

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