This is super interesting. A lot of responses make me feel underpaid, but I'm not really sure because it's dirt cheap to live in Reno: You can get a 1 bedroom apartment for $500-$1000 a month. My wife and I bought an 1800 sq ft house on 9000 sq ft of property for $230k. I've been a software engineer at a small software company ~20 employees for 3 years now, but I've only been out of school for a year and I make $75k.
Compared to an engineer at a startup in SF making $150,000/year and paying over $3,000/mo [1] for a one bedroom apartment + California income/gains taxes, you're not doing too poorly at all. Your quality of life is also likely better and you're less exposed to crime. [1] https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-ren...
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Compared to an engineer at a startup in SF making $150,000/year and paying over $3,000/mo [1] for a one bedroom apartment + California income/gains taxes, you're not doing too poorly at all. Your quality of life is also likely better and you're less exposed to crime. [1] https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-ren...
"Quality of life" But Reno though!!
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Fyi standard temp and pressure at is 14 psi, so 10 is actually a slight vacuum. Or 10 over current is still not very much. Usually not enough to even explode. people can blow up to about 20psi, eg 6 psi over stp (otherwise we couldn't breathe). So it'd be more like a birthday baloon that flubbered around for 4 seconds and then went flat.
Interesting. So if my bike tire is at 10 lbs, is that 10 above atmosphere or just 10psi? I think a balloon flubbering arround for 4 seconds then going flat at the office would still be considered a scene. In fact I think your depiction is perfect. Ha.
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FWIW I am basically in the same situation. My base pay is in the same region you describe for yours, and I rarely see offers that are even 80% of what my salary expectation is, let alone other forms of compensation and other benefits. I am in scientific computing and machine learning, and I actually love being an implementer and a coder. I don't want to be a people manager (mostly because I think all companies force…
Sorry this is off topic. Is there a way into machine learning without doing going and going an Ms or PhD? Im working my way through a coursera course on it but I'm not sure that is enough. All the positions I see are looking for academic experience or 5+ years doing it. Neither of which are doable for me.
http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~gareth/ISL/ISLR%20First%20Printing.p...
It assumes some understanding of calculus, but doesn't require matrix algebra.
The original (and amazing) book that lots of people used is Elements of Statistical Learning.
https://web.stanford.edu/~hastie/local.ftp/Springer/OLD/ESLI...
Chapters 1-7 are worth their weight in gold. This is one of the cases where the physical books are much better, as you'll need to flick back and forth to see the figures (which are one of the best parts).
The forgoing assumes that you already know some statistics/data analysis (the latter probably being more important).
If you haven't done this before, then I suggest that you acquire some data you care about, install R (a good book is the Art of R Programming by Matloff), and start trying to make inferences. And draw graphs. Many, many, many graphs.
If you keep at this, finding papers/books and reading theory, and implementing it in your spare time, then you can probably get a good data science job in 1-2 years. You'll probably need to devote much of your free time to it though.
I'm assuming that you can already code, given the context :)
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Yes. Just as you can quit, walk out, and be done. For no reason. But they can't fire you for health reasons, personal reasons, etc.
> Yes. Just as you can quit, walk out, and be done. What is the flip-side to at-will employment though? Without at-will employment, do employees become slaves that cannot quit their job? Or are there only a small list of "legal" reasons for you to quit your job. I always see "well the employee can always leave at any time too," but is that really something that disappears in places without at-will employment?
The flip side of this is that it's very difficult to get fired, even if you're not very competent.
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Not sure why this was downvoted, it's not illegal and companies do it via background checks. Quick searches reveal this is a popular question, spot checks of the answers agree that it's not illegal and quite common.
Why is it that "What are you making are your current job, we will verify it." is acceptable but "What was this companies net revenue last quarter" is not. The game is so clearly rigged.
So employees can ask lots of questions about company financial health, as part of trying to reduce the far larger risk they are taking.
Meanwhile, a company doesn't need to know your salary history to make an informed opinion of whether they want to hire you and for what amount of pay.
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> The vast majority of software engineers (let-alone 'entry level' SEs) in the US aren't making six figures. While I'm sure this is true in the total sense (there are a LOT of bad software engineers), decent and good ones should be making over $100k easily.
What separates a bad SE from a decent SE?
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> The vast majority of software engineers (let-alone 'entry level' SEs) in the US aren't making six figures. While I'm sure this is true in the total sense (there are a LOT of bad software engineers), decent and good ones should be making over $100k easily.
What separates a bad SE from a decent SE?
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One of my negotiation principles is "Don't disclose your current or desired salary" during the negotiation. With persistence, the recruiter or hiring manager will usually just move on. Another principle is that you should always counter. So I'm _extremely_ surprised to hear that 95% of the time, people have refused to continue talking with you. I can't refute your experience, but I can say this has never happened to…
I take the opposite approach. The last time I moved, I made a secure web page that had my current comp package, in detail, and the minimums on my required comp package, in detail. This I sent to every recruiter that had contacted me in the previous 18 months. Scores of them. Before I would speak to any of them on the phone, I'd get a soft confirmation via e-mail that they had a position that could meet my requirement…
They have only ever said that every position they are working on would offer a salary too low to compete even with what I currently made, let alone the larger amount I was seeking.
Yet at the same time, I have friends and colleagues who already are earning the higher level I am seeking, and who say it is a common amount to be earning in certain places.
My opinion is that recruiters focus a lot on whether it would be easy to get you hired. If your salary is high, few recruiters will bother because it means you are picky and you're looking to work at companies that are picky and so lots of times it doesn't work out.
Recruiters are a lot like crappy stock analysts. They are always looking for a story about something being undervalued, to hook someone on how they can get something great for an amazingly cheap price.
If you are justifiably expensive, most recruiters scatter like roaches. They can't sell things at their true value, and view it as wasting time even to try.
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Interesting. So if my bike tire is at 10 lbs, is that 10 above atmosphere or just 10psi? I think a balloon flubbering arround for 4 seconds then going flat at the office would still be considered a scene. In fact I think your depiction is perfect. Ha.
Bike tires are typically inflated to a psi (lbs per square inch). A bike tire is a bad example in this context because most are filled pretty high (80-130psi, mine are 90psi). The average car tire is 30-40psi.
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