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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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I was an intern over the summer, just graduated and was offered 95,000 salary, 27,000 signing bonus with my first paycheck, and another 20,000 over months 13-24. In addition, I get 53,000 in RSU that are payed out: 5% after my first year, 15% after my second year, and 20% every 6 months after that until I've been there for 4 years. Finally, i got a 10,000 relocation lump sum. I have friends who interned the summer be…

You're getting jacked around, interview at Facebook/Google and walk away with piles more cash and guess what no bullshit pagers to carry around either!

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Can you please specify which domain? tech stack used, programming language, technology etc.

Google does not care about this for entry level engineering positions.

He is not working at entry level engineering positions.He mentioned 4 years experience.

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This is super interesting. A lot of responses make me feel underpaid, but I'm not really sure because it's dirt cheap to live in Reno: You can get a 1 bedroom apartment for $500-$1000 a month. My wife and I bought an 1800 sq ft house on 9000 sq ft of property for $230k. I've been a software engineer at a small software company ~20 employees for 3 years now, but I've only been out of school for a year and I make $75k.

Compared to an engineer at a startup in SF making $150,000/year and paying over $3,000/mo [1] for a one bedroom apartment + California income/gains taxes, you're not doing too poorly at all. Your quality of life is also likely better and you're less exposed to crime. [1] https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-san-francisco-ren...

"Quality of life"

But Reno though!!

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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100% agree with you. I've been able to get 30-40% raises YoY by job hopping roughly every 1.5 years. It's enough time to get experience somewhere, but not enough to become complacent. YMMV

Do you move every 1.5 years? that must be fun ...

There are plenty of job markets that support getting a new job without moving.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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I'm interested in what your negotiation principles are. I've always heard that a candidate should never share salary information and require the company to provide the first concrete number in the form of their initial offer. However, I've repeatedly used all of the "business-professional" and "HR approved" sorts of conversational techniques to enact this advice, and the only result that has ever occurred is either (…

One of my negotiation principles is "Don't disclose your current or desired salary" during the negotiation. With persistence, the recruiter or hiring manager will usually just move on. Another principle is that you should always counter. So I'm _extremely_ surprised to hear that 95% of the time, people have refused to continue talking with you. I can't refute your experience, but I can say this has never happened to…

I take the opposite approach. The last time I moved, I made a secure web page that had my current comp package, in detail, and the minimums on my required comp package, in detail. This I sent to every recruiter that had contacted me in the previous 18 months. Scores of them.

Before I would speak to any of them on the phone, I'd get a soft confirmation via e-mail that they had a position that could meet my requirements.

The web page also had information about what areas I was willing to commute to.

I've used variants of this approach for more than 20 years, and it's working exceedingly well.

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post #436

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Which while cool, is not the norm. Anecdotes don't counter that.

Yeah, but the claim was: > Companies never give substantial raises to current employees. and a single counterexample is enough to counter it.

If you're being super pedantic, sure, but... as far as the typical developer/employee is concerned, it's not relevant.

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for instance, former Labor Secretary Robert Reich narrated his book 'Beyond Outrage' even though he was told that it really wasn't a good idea. That's a very interesting aside. I could see how a non-professional narrator would struggle with the demands of the process. Would it not still have made sense for someone like Mr. Reich from a personal branding point of view? He is, after all, a somewhat well-known public fi…

I listened to Bill Bryson's self-narrated (and truncated) version of A Short History of Nearly Everything. It was my first time listening to an author self-narrating their book. It's probably one of my favorite narrations (I've got over 120 audiobooks under my belt now). Bryson set the bar pretty high. Then I listened to Leonard Mlodinow's "The Upright Thinkers"; Oh god. Euclid's Window by Mlodinow was absolutely fan…

The gold standard for this is Douglas Adams' readings of the HHGTG books. He was actually a really good narrator. I suppose his BBC Radio experience helped.

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post #316

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Not sure why this was downvoted, it's not illegal and companies do it via background checks. Quick searches reveal this is a popular question, spot checks of the answers agree that it's not illegal and quite common.

I think the OP means they can't legally access this information other than by getting you or your previous employer to disclose it. Most large companies won't give out your past salary information, so if they don't force you to provide proof, it's not very likely they will be able to verify it. >via background checks Background checks are normally done via a 3rd party background check company, and they don't have acc…

When I was hired by Merrill Lynch, in Dublin, they asked for my bank statements for the last ten years in order to verify that I was indeed making what I said. (The only annoying thing was that I had to scan 75 pages... boooring.)

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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When you make as much as you do, it's a huge waste of everyone's time for you to interview for roles that just can't go there. By stating your compensation up front, you effectively make the recruiter your negotiator before you ever interview. You're getting them to get the company to agree to possibly paying you that much, assuming you meet some bar in their head that's worth it. More specifically to your next move,…

> Many are referencing Patrick's blog (kalzumeus.com), which is a great way to bump up your dollars. Which posts exactly? What is that blog known for? First time I see it referenced.

Probably this post: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/

The blog is known for interesting posts on startups and software development from outside the Bay Area filter bubble.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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The reason is because the first person to say a number is at a slight disadvantage, and recruiters and managers don't want it to be them. It is true that making sure you are on the same page salary-wise is a good idea, but it doesn't always have to be the interviewee to establish that.

See my response... this isn't the reason we do it. In fact we try to put the position's salary range on the job posting if we can come up with an agreement internally (our hiring is very informal). Or we put "market rate; negotiable" or something along those lines, and put the onus on the applicant to research what their market rate is. Basically, I have a checklist for the first phone interview, and the relevant ite…

Candidates don't know this about you and have no a priori reason to trust you or believe it. Since most other corporate negotiators are far more predatory than you, it means candidates are better off adopting a unilateral strategy in which they just believe all negotiators are behaving badly.
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