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Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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I've been facing the opposite problem. I've been in a lengthy job search and despite being in a situation where I really need a job, I've been forced to reject all the offers that have been made -- because the working conditions are just too unhealthy. The article mentions that a side effect of exploding offers is that you don't get to see the full landscape of opportunities and trade-offs you're facing before you ma…

Do noise-cancelling headphones not work for you?

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Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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post #35

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Not only this, but they are well known to only recruit at a very particular set of top schools as well.

Meaning they are very selective? Their blog post says they consider anyone who applies.

Consider, yes. Seriously consider? No.

In comparison to the Duke, Harvard, CMU (or similar level) grads the number of state school grads working there is minimal, especially with respect to who is hired out of school. Which is a shame, really - I'd be really interested in working in fintech/trading someday.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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The idea of an 'exploding offer' seems a bit odd to me.

What makes it one-sided exploding? Are people being asked to actually start work in three days time, or just accept the offer?

What happens if you say 'yes' and continue interviewing? Does a big guy with a sword turn up at your front door and chop your head off?

Are people just trying to be polite and not burn bridges? Why would you want to be polite towards such a ridiculous employer?

'Negotiating' in this situation just feels really odd to me. Reply: "Okay, I can start in a few weeks' time". Phone down.

I am exceedingly uninterested in bending my life around employers - that's a world I left behind when I left my job as a retail clerk.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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Do noise-cancelling headphones not work for you?

Not even close. For one, listening to actual sound like music or a podcast is even worse for me than the dull ambient backdrop noise. On rare occasion I can listen to music for a brief period of time, maybe 1 hour. But any sustained sounds longer than an hour and I start to feel the type of tiredness you feel when you pull an all-nighter. That's just how sound affects me. I can't "tune it out" like most people can ..…

As someone with a similar issue, I have settled on a combination of brown noise and indistinct human-like voices. (I use babelbabble on iOS but would like to find a webapp equivalent. I hope you can hold out for the right job.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even close. For one, listening to actual sound like music or a podcast is even worse for me than the dull ambient backdrop noise. On rare occasion I can listen to music for a brief period of time, maybe 1 hour. But any sustained sounds longer than an hour and I start to feel the type of tiredness you feel when you pull an all-nighter. That's just how sound affects me. I can't "tune it out" like most people can ..…

As someone with a similar issue, I have settled on a combination of brown noise and indistinct human-like voices. (I use babelbabble on iOS but would like to find a webapp equivalent. I hope you can hold out for the right job.

This is remarkably similar to the set up that David Byrne describes in his book How Music Works.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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post #36

I've been facing the opposite problem. I've been in a lengthy job search and despite being in a situation where I really need a job, I've been forced to reject all the offers that have been made -- because the working conditions are just too unhealthy. The article mentions that a side effect of exploding offers is that you don't get to see the full landscape of opportunities and trade-offs you're facing before you ma…

You should apply to Facebook, when I was there special accommodations were made for people who required an office.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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post #36

I've been facing the opposite problem. I've been in a lengthy job search and despite being in a situation where I really need a job, I've been forced to reject all the offers that have been made -- because the working conditions are just too unhealthy. The article mentions that a side effect of exploding offers is that you don't get to see the full landscape of opportunities and trade-offs you're facing before you ma…

I don't think a union is the way to go. More like a professional association like the American Bar Association, American Medical Association, AICPA, etc.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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post #36

I've been facing the opposite problem. I've been in a lengthy job search and despite being in a situation where I really need a job, I've been forced to reject all the offers that have been made -- because the working conditions are just too unhealthy. The article mentions that a side effect of exploding offers is that you don't get to see the full landscape of opportunities and trade-offs you're facing before you ma…

You should apply to Facebook, when I was there special accommodations were made for people who required an office.

That is a mind-boggling comment. I've mostly avoided applying there because they are so over the top with advertising their extreme investment into huge open-plan spaces. It was such a huge cultural turn off that I figured there was no way they would even consider someone like me.

Do you have any links to anything they've written about this?

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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post #36

I've been facing the opposite problem. I've been in a lengthy job search and despite being in a situation where I really need a job, I've been forced to reject all the offers that have been made -- because the working conditions are just too unhealthy. The article mentions that a side effect of exploding offers is that you don't get to see the full landscape of opportunities and trade-offs you're facing before you ma…

I don't think a union is the way to go. More like a professional association like the American Bar Association, American Medical Association, AICPA, etc.

Have those organizations successfully negotiated working conditions? I mean we do have things like IEEE, ACM, various societies. Membership in them pretty much doesn't mean anything.

Re: Unraveling of the tech hiring market

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Depends, you can make more money as a market maker by expanding the spread than collapsing it. Though this is obviously a risky move.

How is your comment related to tikhonj's? It seems like a non-sequitur.

Market making as a strategy is more like providing a service on the markets than it is like investing.

I was pointing out that 'Market Making' is not always a good thing. In the broadest ters it increases costs for some trades, and decrease costs for others. So, it's not always good for the market.

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