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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by gravypod »

dguaraglia wrote: post #161
gravypod wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that's too bad, I don't know any people at google. I guess I need to hang around more coffee shops.

The hiring process is a bit hit and miss. I know people who had a really good experience, and I know people who said it was a shit show. About meeting Googlers: if you happen to come to the Bay Area, you can't throw a rock in any direction without hitting at least one Googler. Not saying throwing rocks is the way to go, but... you'll get someone's attention :P

I'm a poor college student on the other side of the country, no dice for now.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by agumonkey »

blabla_blublu wrote: post #51

I worked for Amazon (2013-2014), fresh out of college. Title : Software Development Engineer (SDE I) Base : 98,000 Sign on : 50,000 (2 year period) Relocation : 10,000 (2 year) Stocks : worth $70,000 (4 years)

Above someone mentioned being SDEIII, what's the meaning of these levels ?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by st3v3r »

awesomerobot wrote: post #112
DennisP wrote: post #6

Staying anonymous is probably best but fwiw, policies which prohibit sharing one's own compensation violate federal law. http://www.npr.org/2014/04/13/301989789/pay-secrecy-policies...

Also FWIW most states are at-will employment, and can fire you for no reason

At the same time, firing right after talking about salary is extremely suspicious.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by deeteecee »

JoshDoody wrote: post #120
p4wnc6 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in what your negotiation principles are. I've always heard that a candidate should never share salary information and require the company to provide the first concrete number in the form of their initial offer. However, I've repeatedly used all of the "business-professional" and "HR approved" sorts of conversational techniques to enact this advice, and the only result that has ever occurred is either (…

One of my negotiation principles is "Don't disclose your current or desired salary" during the negotiation. With persistence, the recruiter or hiring manager will usually just move on. Another principle is that you should always counter. So I'm _extremely_ surprised to hear that 95% of the time, people have refused to continue talking with you. I can't refute your experience, but I can say this has never happened to…

Here's my only question with the negotiation technique of not disclosing a desired salary. So is it expected that the other side should state the salary offer? That was my only problem with all these negotiation techniques saying "never mention your salary." Eventually, one side or the other needs to mention and at the end of it all, most articles online never closed it off with saying either side would state the expected salary.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by st3v3r »

mmanfrin wrote: post #132
tptacek wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think employees in (most?) at-will states can be terminated for violating pay secrecy rules. (I think the only state with a meaningful divergence from at-will is Montana).

A company does not have to give reason to fire in an at-will state. If they don't say 'we fired you because you were discussing pay', then there is no means to prove that was the case.

See, that's why at-will is a terrible end run around worker's rights.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by bcg1 »

p4wnc6 wrote: post #96
JoshDoody wrote: post #14

I'm not an Amazonian, but I wanted to chime in here to say I think this thread is a great idea and I would love to see more like it. I write about salary negotiation and coach people through it, and I think sharing salaries publicly will encourage more people to negotiate and get paid what they're worth. I recently coached a new Amazon employee, and he got a very good offer, which he increased by about 15% using VERY…

I'm interested in what your negotiation principles are. I've always heard that a candidate should never share salary information and require the company to provide the first concrete number in the form of their initial offer. However, I've repeatedly used all of the "business-professional" and "HR approved" sorts of conversational techniques to enact this advice, and the only result that has ever occurred is either (…

> I've always heard that a candidate should never share salary information and require the company to provide the first concrete number in the form of their initial offer

Its true that it is irrelevant what you made at your last job, but its kind of silly to play coy when they want you to give a number. When you're trying to get hired you are selling yourself... and the first step in selling is to qualify the customer. Just tell them a number that you would actually be acceptable to you, and if they balk then you don't have to waste your time. If you find out more about the job or company and decide you actually want more money, once you get an offer you can try renegotiating that number and give them your rationale.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Amazon? Here is how much I make at Amazon

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Post by st3v3r »

boren_ave11 wrote: post #71
tdicola wrote: post #63

IMHO you're being underpaid quite a bit with that base salary in the Seattle area. Time to start interviewing at Microsoft, Google, etc. Those companies usually start fresh out of college developers with a base pay a bit over $100k, then bonuses, stock awards, etc. on top.

Are you taking stock into consideration? At current price, 104 shares of AMZN equals $57,408 which puts my total 2016 pay at $130,408.

Are you deducting the taxes from that stock compensation?
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