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Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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We actually forked Atom and built an email app. It's worked surprisingly well!

Why a fork of Atom rather than a brand new Electron app?

presumably because it already has the panel editing features included.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Atom's speed has increased so much that I usually don't notice a lack of performance anymore. Startup time is one second flat and unless I'm opening huge DB dumps or have dozens of selections at the same time, it feels just like Sublime Text.

It's kind of funny. You mention 1 second, as if it's a good thing, while "instant" is generally at least bellow 200ms, preferably below 100ms. Now, it doesn't really make a difference in productivity, but certainly makes a difference in perception (which, I suppose can make a difference in happiness :-). I have some programs that take (too) long to start up: Elite: Dangerous and Star Wars - the Old Republic. My web b…

I really don't expect an advanced editor/IDE to start in less than 200ms, even with an SSD.

When I work or need to open many files, I leave the editor running and when I don't need to open many files, the occasional startup time of 1-2 seconds is more than acceptable for all the functionality it offers. If you open dozens of files and close the editor every time in between, that's really more of a PEBCAK issue.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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The new features and updates are great, but the one thing holding me back from using it is the fact it is extremely slow and laden with performance issues. Anyone who has ever attempted to open a file with a lot of lines of code will attest to the fact that Atom has issues. Ironically, Microsoft's open source Visual Studio Code editor is based in part of some aspects of Atom and it has exceptional performance and is…

Agreed. Atom's performance is it's biggest problem. I've been trying it lately and the startup times are very annoying. I find myself reaching for Notepad++ most often just because I don't feel like waiting.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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post #124

https://github.com/atom/atom-keymap/issues/37 is still open. Yet another broken release for half of the world.

Oh yeah, lets just wait a few months for chrome to release KeyboardEvent.key and then ship a new release.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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I simply don't understand the appeal of the thing. To a person, everyone who raves about it says, essentially "just like Sublime Text, but in Javascript!" , and yeah, that seems right. Just like Sublime Text, but in Javascript...and plagued with the performance problems you'd expect from Sublime Text, written in JavaScript. There's not really a killer feature that makes me want to switch from the editor I use already…

> Perhaps, if you like the thing so much, you could explain why I am an avid Atom user who acknowledges how slow the thing can be. None of the slowness on my end approaches any of the horror stores in these threads, but for me, opening the program from a cold boot takes long enough for the wait to irritate me, the first time I save any file after opening the program takes a second or two, and opening a new window tak…

Having a real settings page and a real package manager are Atom's main draws to me.

I tried to switch back to Sublime after being annoyed with the performance of Atom but kept running into configuration issues and really really disliked having to read documentation on how to configure the damned thing.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Yes Sublime is more responsive, but for me it's just a minor annoyance. The benefits of a community over a one man project who has a tendency to disappear are more than evident IMO.

The author of Package Manager (wbond) is now working on sublime core, so there's at least one more person working on it. :)

That must be why there is a new forum. :)

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Despite Atom's shortcomings that everybody knows about, I really like it and use it frequently. It has a huge number of high quality plugins (and some not so high). That said, eventually I see myself moving to vscode. Text editors are meant to be opened and closed frequently, unlike an IDE. So I typically will have atom opened for various tasks, but will use vscode to "check out" a file. vscode is also written in typ…

I don't know that I fully agree; I leave my Vim instance open for literally days at a time in a tmux session, which works somewhat as my "IDE". Much as I've heard I'm only supposed to do this with "real" IDE's, I have yet to really notice a single drawback.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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> Perhaps, if you like the thing so much, you could explain why I am an avid Atom user who acknowledges how slow the thing can be. None of the slowness on my end approaches any of the horror stores in these threads, but for me, opening the program from a cold boot takes long enough for the wait to irritate me, the first time I save any file after opening the program takes a second or two, and opening a new window tak…

Having a real settings page and a real package manager are Atom's main draws to me. I tried to switch back to Sublime after being annoyed with the performance of Atom but kept running into configuration issues and really really disliked having to read documentation on how to configure the damned thing.

I've actually tried a couple of times to make a graphical settings manager package for Sublime, but the second problem of not having an interface beyond text buffers has made it a bit of a non-starter.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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My biggest problems with Atom:

    Too slow, especially with large files

    All the plugins I seem to want to use are constantly broken
My problems with Sublime:

    Confusing json settings hierarchy

    UI not extensible enough, plugins try their best
I wish one camp would fix these so I can finally settle.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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> Perhaps, if you like the thing so much, you could explain why I am an avid Atom user who acknowledges how slow the thing can be. None of the slowness on my end approaches any of the horror stores in these threads, but for me, opening the program from a cold boot takes long enough for the wait to irritate me, the first time I save any file after opening the program takes a second or two, and opening a new window tak…

> None of the slowness on my end approaches any of the horror stores in these threads, but for me, opening the program from a cold boot takes long enough for the wait to irritate me, the first time I save any file after opening the program takes a second or two, and opening a new window takes a second or two. How this isn't considered a horror story is beyond me. I'd consider that sort of latency over a the network t…

> How this isn't considered a horror story is beyond me.

Because I generally open Atom once every morning on login, at the same time that there's so much disk thrashing that pretty much everything else is loading slowly too, and leave it open the entire day. Not a huge deal.

Granted, I also don't use Atom for non-programming tasks. If I need to edit a configuration file, or browse a huge XML dump or log file, I use Vim.

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