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Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#131

Post by brazzledazzle »

Atom4966 wrote: post #129
kungtotte wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text 3: Build 3103: February 2016 Build 3080/3083: March 2015 Build 3065: August 2014 Build 3059: December 2013 Atom: 1.6: March 2016 1.5: February 2016 1.4: January 2016 1.3: December 2015 User experience-wise, I don't find a large difference between the two editors. Some things are better in ST3, some are better in Atom, but these are very minor things and they're more about my personal preferences rather t…

> Sublime Text 3: > > Build 3103: February 2016 I'm just as annoyed as anyone else about the rate of development on Sublime Text, but please, at least state the whole truth. Build 3109 Release Date: 18 March 2016 https://www.sublimetext.com/3dev

I doubt their intent was to state a half truth. It seems that they were making the point that nearly a year passed between 3083 and 3103.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#132

Post by ngrilly »

z3t4 wrote: post #127
pugio wrote: post #54

I love the concept of Atom and have a lot invested in its success. That being said, I switched back to Sublime because of the responsiveness, and here's why: Programming (for me) is a craft. When I'm in the flow of coding, there's a conversation between me and my program, mediated through the editor (and my REPL). Even a subtle typing lag is enough to subtly disrupt that flow state – the speed of thought and text no…

I just did some benchmarking and discovered switching the Windows theme to Classic reduced the lag with 30-40ms!!!

How did you measure that?

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#133

Post by ngrilly »

pugio wrote: post #54

I love the concept of Atom and have a lot invested in its success. That being said, I switched back to Sublime because of the responsiveness, and here's why: Programming (for me) is a craft. When I'm in the flow of coding, there's a conversation between me and my program, mediated through the editor (and my REPL). Even a subtle typing lag is enough to subtly disrupt that flow state – the speed of thought and text no…

Did anybody had the curiosity and the time to run Typometer on the last version of Atom?

https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#134

Post by brazzledazzle »

drylight wrote: post #76
hacker_9 wrote: post #72

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You expect me to believe that with those specs Atom really runs like a 'complete dog'? The fact you also mention Sublime too really just tells me that your opinion was biased from the start. Finally, JIT compiled languages can be just as fast as native, simply because they can optimise to your hardware specs. You are getting mixed up as to why things are the way they are; JavaScript is a dynamically typed language, s…

You should believe them and others on here. Atom is slow. No way around it. If you or others say that it's fine, then you're suffering from Stockholm syndrome, having been taken in to the cult of Atom.

>If you or others say that it's fine, then you're suffering from Stockholm syndrome, having been taken in to the cult of Atom.

Can we please stop accusing each other of malicious intent? I can't believe there are people on both sides of this argument that can't see that the other could have a different experience.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#136

Post by timlyo »

riscy wrote: post #100
pyre wrote: post #87

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No! You must be lying! I just opened a file and experienced none of that. Therefore it is patently impossible for you to be experiencing what you say you are! /s Didn't we get enough of this BS in the era where people were "victim-blaming" over BSODs in Windows because "I've never had a BSOD and I've been running Windows for years?"

Did you mean to reply to hacker_9 ?

I feel like it could have been a relevant response to most of the comments in this thread.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#137

Post by timlyo »

azinman2 wrote: post #111
girvo wrote: post #91

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Right, that's probably the case. And funnily, the reason why I'm so picky about plugins is that I managed to make both Vim and Sublime Text run horrendously via plugin overload.

Sounds like both should do a better job of telling you which plugins are slowing your system

Atom has something to help with that:

https://github.com/atom/timecop

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#138

Post by z3t4 »

ngrilly wrote: post #132
z3t4 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just did some benchmarking and discovered switching the Windows theme to Classic reduced the lag with 30-40ms!!!

How did you measure that?

I used the program in the article the parent post linked to. Here's the link: https://pavelfatin.com/typometer/

Start the program using:

  java -jar typometer-1.0.jar

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#139

Post by Guillaume86 »

voltagex_ wrote: post #110
PeCaN wrote: post #106

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Yeah. I thought building a text editor in a web shell was incredibly stupid until I tried VSC. It's still more memory hungry than I'd like, but it's really fast—as fast as Vim for me (but noticeably slower than NeoVim). Did MS actually modify Electron, did they just write better JS, or some of both?

The reply above yours seems to think it's "just" Electron with better JS, but I'm pretty sure Atom doesn't have DirectX acceleration ;)

It's open source, check by yourself:

https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/master/build/gulpfi...

which use

https://github.com/joaomoreno/gulp-atom-electron

to fetch electron

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#140

Post by yAnonymous »

pugio wrote: post #54

I love the concept of Atom and have a lot invested in its success. That being said, I switched back to Sublime because of the responsiveness, and here's why: Programming (for me) is a craft. When I'm in the flow of coding, there's a conversation between me and my program, mediated through the editor (and my REPL). Even a subtle typing lag is enough to subtly disrupt that flow state – the speed of thought and text no…

Atom's speed has increased so much that I usually don't notice a lack of performance anymore. Startup time is one second flat and unless I'm opening huge DB dumps or have dozens of selections at the same time, it feels just like Sublime Text.
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