> there is only one word. Corruption The word I would use is Socialism. They are of course related.
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Venezuela to Shut Down for a Week to Cope With Electricity Crisis
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What were the labor conditions like for the workers in the factories your friend was building?
Why is this getting downvoted? Edit: In for a penny, I suppose: why is this getting downvoted? I don't think "why is this getting downvoted" is a controversial question.
It's utterly off-topic.
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> I was unlucky enough to be with one of the ISPs who didn't provision enough backhaul connectivity on the other network cables, so my 100mbit fibre internet now looks something like a 1998 dialup connection Shouldn't this be handled by the NBN? I thought fibre was supposed to be run by NBNco so we wouldn't have to deal with these issues ever again.
As far as I understand, their infrastructure is from the home/street to the exchanges. Major backhaul links are still done via individual ISPs, the net result of which is vastly differing NBN performance between providers.
This is correct. My NBN TPG connection is very fast for somethings, and very slow for others depending on where the servers are hosted, although it has improved dramatically in recent months.
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#144The same thing will come to Hungary in 5 years. Mark my words. Edit: who the hell actually downvotes without a response?
Don't say "Mark my words" - explain why you think it will happen in Hungary and leave people to judge.
Essentially this: the current big dog party has been taking over every public facing company like electric, gas, oil and even the bloody chimney sweepers. Their approach is to loosen regulation, cut budgets and not to invest into the systems.
Recently, schools were hoarded under onem administrative body whp issues paper, chaulk, replacement chairs and everything. Even pays the gas bills on account of the schools. Guess what, schools have been shutting down because of unpaid bills and gas being cut in the middle of winter.
Whoever can find a job away from the country does and most never return. IT companies struggle to find good people because most there is now are tumblr dwelling mediocrity.
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The Nazi Party, even though it has "socialism" and "workers" in its title, is not considered to be a form of Socialism (nor, for that matter, to be pro workers) I hate getting down in the weeds on this, but its "not considered socialism" by those on the left who are embarrassed that the Nazis were pretty much a command economy and have socialism in its name.
I figure it's akin to North Korea being "Democratic" - it's in the name right? ;)
That communist countries often call themselves democratic is not really that strange. Democracy comes from the Greek words demos, which means people, and kratos, while means power or rule:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
As you probably know, communism usually starts out as a mass-movement of ordinary people.
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#146Here in Tasmania we're not at the shut down stage yet, but it's something no one wants to talk about. They're not asking residents to shutdown yet, but if things continue the way they are, who knows. The major companies/power users are currently being rationed (Aluminium smelters, paper mills etc) The state relies on hydro-electric power, and last year sold off a lot of its "excess" power to Victoria via the Basslink…
Reminds me of a situation in Norway a few years back, where a dry autumn, a cold winter, and the power companies using a new cable to the continent to sell their "excess" capacity abroad resulted in skyrocketing prices.
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#147> there is only one word. Corruption The word I would use is Socialism. They are of course related.
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#148> there is only one word. Corruption The word I would use is Socialism. They are of course related.
Yes. Socialism/communism are inherently unfair and unjust, hence breeding a truly staggering amount corruption (almost by necessity).
Socialism != communism.
The Nordic countries are pretty damn socialist.
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#149This ends the great socialists experiments and arguments. It used to be that people in ultra-leftist circles used to cite Venezuela as an argument for socialist successes, now even those arguments are crumbling. It's hard to be a determined leftist nowadays. I moved off long ago. If you want better standards of living for people, it's high trust capitalism that's going to do it.
Except Venezuela is under secret attack, sabotage and the victim of economic sanctions. Same as cuba.
If you believe otherwise you are stupid.
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Doesn't seem like an uninformed worldview, it is an uninformed world view. https://assets.weforum.org/editor/cYHll0JXGc8zJzpkmvOPzcTTjI... Top 10, at least 5 are socialist (I make it 8, Singapore and Switzerland aren't). Of course this is a perception study but I'd argue broadly accurate based on other metrics. This "socialism bad, laissez fair capitalism good" thing gets old and largely seems to be a misunderstandin…
I would say all 10 are clearly capitalist. All have strong recognition of property rights including private property in the means of production. It is unfortunate that political terminology is muddy enough to allow for this sort of confusion. If I think these 10 countries are capitalist and you think 8 of them are socialist, what is the likelihood of us having a useful conversation discussing capitalism and socialism…
Socialism doesn't preclude capitalism, it just harnesses for a different goal.