This is what happens when no child is left behind. How can EVERYONE graduate from HS without lowering the bar?
America's High School Graduates Look Like Other Countries' High School Dropouts
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#22Of course the bulk of US graduates are going to be unskilled... that's just how the bell curve works, and the US has the resources to support lots of unskilled laborers.
It's the top of the bell curve that matters. How do the smartest engineers and scientists in the US compare to their counterparts in other countries?
Eventually we'll have a basic income so if people don't want to learn, they won't have to.
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#23Not able to send a text messsage? That I don't believe.
The study is about comparative data, and I can well believe (having lived in another country) that there are countries where a larger percentage of adults than in the United States can use commonplace technology of today. The math literacy (numeracy) advantage for other countries I absolutely believe, as I have read the textbooks from other countries (I am an American who can read Chinese), and the textbooks are simp…
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#25I'd be much more interested in a study that compares the top 1 percentile of graduates between countries. Of course the bulk of US graduates are going to be unskilled... that's just how the bell curve works, and the US has the resources to support lots of unskilled laborers. It's the top of the bell curve that matters. How do the smartest engineers and scientists in the US compare to their counterparts in other count…
I think that this attitude has gotten us into a pretty big mess.
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#26And in this age of information and technology, many of these people are voting to decide the next leader of the only superpower left on Earth. This may sound grossly elitist, but democracy can be super scary sometimes.
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#27I haven't met a single ambitious person in the US who dreams of teaching in a high school.
It's kind of sad that secondary ed isn't high-prestige in today's American culture, but it's not.
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#28I'd be much more interested in a study that compares the top 1 percentile of graduates between countries. Of course the bulk of US graduates are going to be unskilled... that's just how the bell curve works, and the US has the resources to support lots of unskilled laborers. It's the top of the bell curve that matters. How do the smartest engineers and scientists in the US compare to their counterparts in other count…
And you're far too optimistic about the basic income. It's far from a certainty, especially in the US.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe Trump is the only politician with the knowledge/freedom to act on that realization, leading to landslide victories by appealing to the lowest common denominator in US voters. I guess that's exactly what democracy is.
In theory that's why we have delegates. Unfortunately the delegates are now bought and paid for by the same corporate interests that have our country in its current state...
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#30American academia is the envy of the world. I haven't met a single ambitious person in the US who dreams of teaching in a high school. It's kind of sad that secondary ed isn't high-prestige in today's American culture, but it's not.
Maybe there's a problem here with how you define "ambitious"