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C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

More results for comparison: http://www.tux.org/~mayer/linux/results2.html

Looks like it's around the speed of a 1GHz Pentium III.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#62
post #6

Invite only.... So you cannot even get them. What's the use of this announcement?

I think I have a number of invites, but the site is very slow at the moment.

Can you please send me an invite? We are building something that's going to be heavy on the server side and this looks like a really good deal. My email is visible on my profile. Thanks!

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#63

Avotons are very slow, an 8C SoC will typically be slower than an 8 year old 2C desktop CPU (I ran Go builds as a benchmark on my own 2.4 GHz C2750 vs. a 2008 iMac with 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo). As for Scaleway, some people seem to like it very much, but I found their policy about spamming their users problematic. They (online.net) mock you at registration with a sleazy checked and disabled box for receiving spam ("produc…

I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

What does "openssl speed" say? Thanks!

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

C1 (ARM):

    C1 root $ sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run
    sysbench 0.4.12:  multi-threaded system evaluation benchmark

    Running the test with following options:
    Number of threads: 1

    Doing CPU performance benchmark

    Threads started!
    Done.

    Maximum prime number checked in CPU test: 20000


    Test execution summary:
        total time:                          686.1683s
        total number of events:              10000
        total time taken by event execution: 686.1557
        per-request statistics:
             min:                                 68.59ms
             avg:                                 68.62ms
             max:                                 70.83ms
             approx.  95 percentile:              68.62ms

    Threads fairness:
        events (avg/stddev):           10000.0000/0.00
        execution time (avg/stddev):   686.1557/0.00
vs the VPS (VC1):

    VC1 root $ sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run
    sysbench 0.4.12:  multi-threaded system evaluation benchmark

    Running the test with following options:
    Number of threads: 1

    Doing CPU performance benchmark

    Threads started!
    Done.

    Maximum prime number checked in CPU test: 20000


    Test execution summary:
        total time:                          45.9858s
        total number of events:              10000
        total time taken by event execution: 45.9822
        per-request statistics:
             min:                                  4.59ms
             avg:                                  4.60ms
             max:                                  4.98ms
             approx.  95 percentile:               4.61ms

    Threads fairness:
        events (avg/stddev):           10000.0000/0.00
        execution time (avg/stddev):   45.9822/0.00

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#65

unlimited bandwidth. Is that for real? 300 Mbits. Let's assume you can pump out 100 Mbit sustained. That is about 10 MB/s. or 26,000,000 Megabytes/month. 26,000 GB / month. AWS & google cloud are about $.10/GB. That'd cost 2600 USD to serve. Scaleway claims that'd cost just 12 euro. For realz?

Their mother company (Online/Iliad/Free) does this to balance out their incoming/outgoing traffic in order to avoid to pay for transit, which is why they provide these services at/near cost.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#66
post #40

I tried Scaleway last year. I was very disappointed with the usability of their offering (I was trying to run a simple Ubuntu Minecraft server - it was unnecessarily complicated to set up everything from ssh keys to snapshots), and stopped the account quickly. That very next day and for the first time ever my card picked up a fraudulent $3000 bar bill in Las Vegas. I don't think it was a coincidence. I cannot recomme…

How exactly is Scaleway (European company) related to some fraudulent bar bill in Las Vegas? And you didn't say what was wrong with their service.

Stolen credit cards are sold to "carders" who sell them on to people all over the world. Here is a NYTimes article on how credit cards are stolen and sold: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/card-data-is-stolen...

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#67
post #39

how easy is it to boot/install your own OS on these bare metal servers? some of these offers look interesting for unikernels.

I don't have any experience with Scaleway, but Vultr allows you to upload your own ISO and install it (even Windows Server). However, it's purely a VPS at competitive prices, not bare metal. Their bare metal servers start at $60USD/month.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#68
post #35

The blade servers at Delimiter ( https://www.delimiter.com/ ) are even more affordable. I pay $20 a month for a dual Xeon blade with 16gb of ram. They did have a very long downtime this year with no service credit, but uptime has been reasonable over the past year. If you're looking for a hobby box it's a pretty good deal.

I got super excited at first, but then... The servers are based on: http://ark.intel.com/products/33927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E54... and http://ark.intel.com/products/47927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L56... These are super ancient. If you're looking for affordable north american servers, OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware. They've got a data center in Canada and will give you American IPs from t…

For Europe, there's the Hetzner server auction in Germany.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#69
post #2

the prices look sweet. anyone has experience with them? How's the network stability? support response times?

For what it's worth: I created an account to try it out in January, played a bit with a cheap instance, and deleted the instance. Got billed in February (about 1€) while there was strictly no activity going on. Got to wait until end of March for the account to close, and with everything turned off I can see another bill coming in for 0.50€. Cannot remove my credit card details. Don't care much about the undue handful of euros, but I would not trust them for billing.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#70
post #35

The blade servers at Delimiter ( https://www.delimiter.com/ ) are even more affordable. I pay $20 a month for a dual Xeon blade with 16gb of ram. They did have a very long downtime this year with no service credit, but uptime has been reasonable over the past year. If you're looking for a hobby box it's a pretty good deal.

I got super excited at first, but then... The servers are based on: http://ark.intel.com/products/33927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E54... and http://ark.intel.com/products/47927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L56... These are super ancient. If you're looking for affordable north american servers, OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware. They've got a data center in Canada and will give you American IPs from t…

kimsufi doesn't look bad but I don't find anywhere their cancellation policy
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