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C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by elcct »

Vlaix wrote: post #21
fooyc wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a subsidiary company of Online.net, itself a subsidiary of Iliad/Free, one of the leading ISPs in France. I have over 50 servers at Online since more than a year now, and they have been pretty much flawless. Support is good and reachable by phone. I haven't worked with Scaleway though.

>Support is good and reachable by phone Really ? I used them quite a bit years and years ago, and at the time the support was somewhat garbage, which made me move to OVH.

I did the opposite and moved from OVH. I didn't have any problems with Online, but can't say the same about OVH.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by voltagex_ »

lazyjones wrote: post #11

Avotons are very slow, an 8C SoC will typically be slower than an 8 year old 2C desktop CPU (I ran Go builds as a benchmark on my own 2.4 GHz C2750 vs. a 2008 iMac with 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo). As for Scaleway, some people seem to like it very much, but I found their policy about spamming their users problematic. They (online.net) mock you at registration with a sleazy checked and disabled box for receiving spam ("produc…

I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by zx2c4 »

lazyjones wrote: post #11

Avotons are very slow, an 8C SoC will typically be slower than an 8 year old 2C desktop CPU (I ran Go builds as a benchmark on my own 2.4 GHz C2750 vs. a 2008 iMac with 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo). As for Scaleway, some people seem to like it very much, but I found their policy about spamming their users problematic. They (online.net) mock you at registration with a sleazy checked and disabled box for receiving spam ("produc…

> I doubt that

Just tried for a few minutes all 3 of them. The C2S is a C2550, and the C2M and C2L are C2750. They each appear to be bare metal, and not virtualized. The VPS offering, which is advertised as a VPS, appears to be virtualized inside of a C2750. The C1 is a Marvell Armada 370/XP, a bare metal ARMv7l board.

> I would consider their offers "ad-supported".

This also is not my experience. I haven't ever received spam from them, nor received advertising.

> Avotons are very slow

This part of what you wrote is true, unfortunately. :(

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by Aissen »

codecamper wrote: post #29

unlimited bandwidth. Is that for real? 300 Mbits. Let's assume you can pump out 100 Mbit sustained. That is about 10 MB/s. or 26,000,000 Megabytes/month. 26,000 GB / month. AWS & google cloud are about $.10/GB. That'd cost 2600 USD to serve. Scaleway claims that'd cost just 12 euro. For realz?

Yes, and it's already the cases for the C1s. It's best effort, you're not guaranteed a sustained I/O if your neighbors are as greedy. But I have a few workloads at OVH and Scaleway that are bandwith-bound, and cloud pricings are just 10 to 100 times more expensive. That's how it is.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by zx2c4 »

zschallz wrote: post #25

The blade servers at Delimiter ( https://www.delimiter.com/ ) are even more affordable. I pay $20 a month for a dual Xeon blade with 16gb of ram. They did have a very long downtime this year with no service credit, but uptime has been reasonable over the past year. If you're looking for a hobby box it's a pretty good deal.

I got super excited at first, but then...

The servers are based on: http://ark.intel.com/products/33927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E54... and http://ark.intel.com/products/47927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L56...

These are super ancient.

If you're looking for affordable north american servers, OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware. They've got a data center in Canada and will give you American IPs from their AS in Newark, NJ:

https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/

The parent company of scaleway, online.net, also has some inexpensive offerings, but the servers are in France which might be a deal breaker for you. (Delimiter seems to be in Atlanta.)

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by tux3 »

codecamper wrote: post #29

unlimited bandwidth. Is that for real? 300 Mbits. Let's assume you can pump out 100 Mbit sustained. That is about 10 MB/s. or 26,000,000 Megabytes/month. 26,000 GB / month. AWS & google cloud are about $.10/GB. That'd cost 2600 USD to serve. Scaleway claims that'd cost just 12 euro. For realz?

I have a 3€ C1 server at Scaleway moving some 25-30TB of data per month, so yes, it's very real.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by pyvpx »

codecamper wrote: post #29

unlimited bandwidth. Is that for real? 300 Mbits. Let's assume you can pump out 100 Mbit sustained. That is about 10 MB/s. or 26,000,000 Megabytes/month. 26,000 GB / month. AWS & google cloud are about $.10/GB. That'd cost 2600 USD to serve. Scaleway claims that'd cost just 12 euro. For realz?

"unmetered" is a popular dedicated hosting company marketing trick. things are generally oversubscribed to horrifically oversubscribed and you'll be very hard pressed to sustain 100Mbps 24x7 for a full day, let alone a full month.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Post by lubos »

rfreytag wrote: post #28

I tried Scaleway last year. I was very disappointed with the usability of their offering (I was trying to run a simple Ubuntu Minecraft server - it was unnecessarily complicated to set up everything from ssh keys to snapshots), and stopped the account quickly. That very next day and for the first time ever my card picked up a fraudulent $3000 bar bill in Las Vegas. I don't think it was a coincidence. I cannot recomme…

How exactly is Scaleway (European company) related to some fraudulent bar bill in Las Vegas?

And you didn't say what was wrong with their service.

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