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Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by rubicon33 »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #32

I wonder how effective the following strategy would be: As soon as you are diagnosed with any type of cancer, begin an immediate fast (duration TBD). The reasoning is that it hurts the cancer more than you, plus it provides a temporary boost in your immune system. It probably wouldn't provide a huge advantage, but heck, even if it only improves overall survival 1-3%? It'd be worth it.

I like the idea. An immediate fast, though for how long I'm not sure.

Follow that with a raw vegan diet, with lots of avocados and cilantro.

Add traditional cancer treatment methods.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by petegrif »

andy_ppp wrote: post #33

Dom D’Agostino on various things about Ketosis and Cancer fighting. http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/11/03/dominic-dagostino/ Ted Talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fM9o72ykww I'm going to try the Bullet Proof Coffee recipe I think!

It can scarcely be described as coffee. To my taste it is an unspeakably vile tasting concoction.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by petegrif »

atomical wrote: post #31
garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

Bulletproof coffee is a scam.

Better described as Bulletbroof buttery strange drink that bears little resemblance to coffee.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by raverbashing »

pstuart wrote: post #49
raverbashing wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The effect is probably small The body is very efficient at turning protein and fat into energy However the issue with proteins/amino-acids is that the body actually needs them and can't convert carbs or fats into them (you actually need some of the amino-acids). Maybe the cure is to limit your protein intake but that poses other problems

Methionine may be a key player: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22342103

Interesting!

"In humans, vegan diets, which can be low in methionine, may prove to be a useful nutritional strategy in cancer growth control."

For example, soy protein is limited by methionine https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7666787

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by jasonkolb »

I became really interested in this a while back after watching a fascinating BBC documentary about fasting. It stated that cancer could not grow in the absence of IGF-1 (a growth hormone secreted in response to protein ingestion). I did a bunch of research and found barely anything out there about it, but the little I found did seem to back it up.

I recommend anyone interested in this topic watch this film, it's great: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer...

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by personjerry »

_0w8t wrote: post #34
garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

This does not explain how people in rural China that eat mostly carbs with very little fat and consume 25% calories more per body mass than westerners have noticeably less rates of most cancers. Only their rate for stomach cancer is significantly elevated compared with Western levels.

Do you have a citation for this?

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by biomcgary »

garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

There are at least two reasons that cancer prefer energy from fermenting glucose and using glutamine. First, both molecules provide readily available energy that is easy to import quickly. Second, fermentation avoids using the mitochondria, which, in addition to being the cell's powerhouse, is also its executioner by way of apoptosis.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by jeffhiggins »

petegrif wrote: post #52
andy_ppp wrote: post #33

Dom D’Agostino on various things about Ketosis and Cancer fighting. http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/11/03/dominic-dagostino/ Ted Talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fM9o72ykww I'm going to try the Bullet Proof Coffee recipe I think!

It can scarcely be described as coffee. To my taste it is an unspeakably vile tasting concoction.

To me, Bulletproof coffee tastes like a double double from Tim Hortons. So I agree, it's definitely an unspeakably vile tasting concoction. :)

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

petegrif wrote: post #52
andy_ppp wrote: post #33

Dom D’Agostino on various things about Ketosis and Cancer fighting. http://fourhourworkweek.com/2015/11/03/dominic-dagostino/ Ted Talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fM9o72ykww I'm going to try the Bullet Proof Coffee recipe I think!

It can scarcely be described as coffee. To my taste it is an unspeakably vile tasting concoction.

I didn't mind it... but MCT oil has the same effect on my digestive system as eating a pound of sugar free haribo gummy bears.

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jasonkolb wrote: post #55

I became really interested in this a while back after watching a fascinating BBC documentary about fasting. It stated that cancer could not grow in the absence of IGF-1 (a growth hormone secreted in response to protein ingestion). I did a bunch of research and found barely anything out there about it, but the little I found did seem to back it up. I recommend anyone interested in this topic watch this film, it's grea…

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