> For instance, on harassment: telling a coworker of either gender that you like their clothes can be reported as harassment What a terrible society we're developing for ourselves.
I used to work at a multi-national bank, with very strict rules on sexual harassment. It was widely understood that a male should never be alone with a female with no potential witnesses around. This included getting into a lift (elevator) with a single female occupant. I doubt this was official policy but was one of those unwritten rules. Interesting link: https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/27043/why-some-male-member…
What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
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Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#92So having interned at Facebook, I find this post confusing. They made it very clear to us during HR onboarding that the only zero tolerance policy was on unauthorized access to user data. The harassment stuff isn't a zero tolerance thing. They even told us to go ahead and ask out other employees if you're interested, but just don't press if you get a no. It's pretty clear he accessed data he shouldn't have, and for t…
Given that Facebook HR trawls user data to send job spam I find this claim quite ironic.
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#93My opinion: This person used someone else's electronic credentials to perform a task without asking for permission. This person did not have the proper level of access on their own account to perform this action, so they used someone else's (likely the "VP" who they were working with on that project). This would/should get you fired at many places.
This person used someone else's electronic credentials to perform a task without asking for permission. [...] This would/should get you fired at many places. You mean that thing that happens all the time at every office? I have a post-it note on which my boss wrote his password for me, specifically because he was sick of my asking whenever I needed to be granted access to new things. I can't think of a single job I'v…
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, bypassing procedure was my thought. This sentence says a lot: > If a week prior, I had typed a few different keystrokes, I would never have been in that room. So I doubt it was something like "Looked at a users private information"
Why does that make you think it's not looking at user's private information? He's running a test, and he wants to make sure his new function retrieves data properly. He can search for his own name, but out of idle curiosity and boredom (he's seen his own data a million times, he wants something visually distinct on his screen), he searches for the name of a friend of his that he hung out with last week. It's only a f…
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's scary (if the offense was indeed access to user data) is not that this one person did it, but that this person insists that it's as common at Facebook as jaywalking is in the real world.
Which seems impossible, considering an automated system flagged him for this level of scrutiny.
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#96"Every morning, I'd get up, hop in the shuttle, and that's when my day began. Getting breakfast, seeing all my friends" Confusing friends and colleagues, possibly having no life outside of work. "She's never at her desk, and she routinely cancelled our regular 1:1 meetings because she has no other choice" Stockholm syndrome "My boss's voice was devoid of emotion, even though we had gone through a lot together (at lea…
Another thing I see a lot (and you can see it in another answer to this question, further down) is people (mostly SV) referring to jobs as adventures. And more generally putting work on a pedestal and conflating work with life.
I mean I suppose in theory whatever floats your boats, call it an adventure, but to me an adventure would be going canoeing in Belize with (outside-of-work) friends. Show me a job that encourages and enables employees to do that and I will show you a job actually worth putting on a pedestal. 97 additional facebook notifications per day is not a selling point.
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#97My opinion: This person used someone else's electronic credentials to perform a task without asking for permission. This person did not have the proper level of access on their own account to perform this action, so they used someone else's (likely the "VP" who they were working with on that project). This would/should get you fired at many places.
Not sure what the down voting is about. Things that lead me to this conclusion: "...and remind you that this is the hacker company. Of course this is all a lie: that's how you get fired." And "It was clear that the person who talked to me had no idea what she was talking about. She quickly confessed as much to me." The author is referring to the HR member who was conducting the investigation. It was probably a techni…
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#98"Every morning, I'd get up, hop in the shuttle, and that's when my day began. Getting breakfast, seeing all my friends" Confusing friends and colleagues, possibly having no life outside of work. "She's never at her desk, and she routinely cancelled our regular 1:1 meetings because she has no other choice" Stockholm syndrome "My boss's voice was devoid of emotion, even though we had gone through a lot together (at lea…
Do we generally blame the individuals who get pulled into a cult, or do we criticize the cult?
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#99If you are considering writing a post like this ask yourself: "Am I comfortable telling people the cause". If the answer is no then you shouldn't write a post like this. I know he mentions that it's for "privacy reasons"... but any rational person is going to conclude that you are not disclosing the reason because it reflects poorly on you and undermines your gripe. Now if you are comfortable disclosing the cause, th…
Re: What does it feel like to be fired from Facebook?
#100The company we registered was unrelated to the business of selling PCs, but the end result was that I was escorted from the building along with another colleague who was also involved.
Two more of my other colleagues involved in the aforementioned side-enterprise got written warnings. It became apparent afterwards that we had been given an ethics workshop some months before that hinted that we should declare any outside company interests, and those interests would be judged as to whether they were conflicts of interest or not. Sadly, we neglected to mention it.
Two further colleagues who were not involved with us were also removed on the same day. I have no idea for what reason. Several months later half the team got made redundant.
The dismissal process itself is familiar to the Quora description, except I also had a guy from legal in the room. He looked exactly like Marsellus Wallace from Pulp Fiction, but wearing a $3000 Armani suit rather than a ball gag.
His opening gambit was to slam a huge pile of A4 on to the VP's conference room solid mahogany table. As he glared at me, he told me that this was every single email that I'd ever sent or received while working for said company.
It became clear that they had been monitoring all internet traffic in and out of the workplace. Whether that was legal at the time in my country is dubious, but it wasn't worth fighting at the time.
On my dismissal letter I had a strange reason given for the dismissal. It stated that I had been dismissed "for misusing company resources during work hours". It was related to the use of work email to organise the handful of times we got together as a group outside of work. "Hey shall we get together this evening for a few beers and program a bit?" kind of thing.
The others who got warnings had something different noted on their warning letters. It specified that they had not declared outside interests in an external company and that this was against company ethics rules.
After leaving the company I started up a web development company. I continued to use the company that we had registered and continued to use it for several years.
Several years later I tried to update my company director record because I had changed my home address. A letter came back, stating that I had never actually been registered as a company director. They enclosed the initial application form from three years previous. The form was completed, but I had neglected to sign it. Oh the irony.
It suddenly became clear that they had probably checked the company records and noted that I wasn't registered as director. They probably thought that on top of everything I was trying to be a wise guy. Sadly, it was just incompetence.
Lots of lessons learned, but the golden rules are:
- Never do anything on your work computer that is not
related to your work
- Always pay attention to ethics workshops and your
employment contracts.
- Always be aware that if a company wants to cut head
count then heads will roll. It is cheaper to fire
people than make them redundant.
- Marsellus Wallace has a new job slamming conference
tables with piles of A4.
- After completing a form, always remember to sign and
date it!!