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Singapore is somewhat unique in that it's a country with very restricted freedoms, which have been given up in exchange for security/safety. It's extraordinarily rule-bound, and, in many ways, is the antithesis of the United States, in which freedoms reign. In such a structured, government controlled and monitored society, all sorts of rules can be laid down, and enforced through strict punishment. I wouldn't try and…
>in which freedoms reign. Really? Looking beyond what is drilled in to the population from birth and the US is very rule bound in my experience compared to Europe. Whilst over there I got ticketed for parking at the wrong angle, crossing the road in the wrong place. Granted not a rule, but got questions by police for walking and many other situations I forget. Perhaps European countries have this many rules / laws bu…
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#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait, you are talking maybe about heroin addicts beyond saving. But if you just want to buy some weed, you definitely must go to shady characters standing on corners of dark streets in the night, and buy overpriced at-best-mediocre-quality stuff from there (I am not racist or anything, but 100% of them in Geneva are black - that's 5 years of experience). Police guys are constantly patrolling these areas (often with d…
"I am not racist or anything, but 100% of them in Geneva are black - that's 5 years of experience" ...it doesn't seem far of a stretch to make the leap to using your statement here to indicate that you may in fact be racist. There was no reason to indicate their race, so why do it? Did they have blue eyes, too? What can I infer from shady blue-eyed people on street corners selling me drugs?
Now, if you carried that one step further and said that black people in Geneva are probably drug dealers, then yeah, that's racist...
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The demand for high quality weed has never been higher. A minor point, but cannabis use has gone down.
Sources?
Key findings, page 1
> Around 1 in 12 (8.6%) adults aged 16 to 59 had taken an illicit drug in the last year. This equated to around 2.8 million people. This level of drug use was similar to the 2013/14 survey (8.8%), but significantly lower than a decade ago (11.2% in the 2004/05 survey).
Cannabis, page 3 (The chart on that page is pretty clear.)
> As in previous years, cannabis was the most commonly used drug in the last year, with 6.7 per cent of adults aged 16 to 59 using it in the last year, similar to the 2013/14 survey (6.6%; Figure 1.2). Over the longer-term, between the 1998 and 2003/04 surveys, the last year use of cannabis was stable, at around 10 per cent of adults, before falling to 6.5 per cent in 2009/10. The trend since the 2009/10 survey has been relatively flat, at between six and seven per cent (Table 1.02).
> Among younger adults aged 16 to 24, cannabis was also the most commonly used drug, with 16.3 per cent having used it in the last year. This was not statistically significantly different from the level in 2013/14 (15.1%), but was a significant fall compared with the 1996 survey (25.8%).
> Although the trend in the use of cannabis among 16 to 24 year olds appears to have shown a steady increase compared with the 2012/13 survey, it is too early to conclude that this is an emerging pattern at this stage. The estimates from the 2012/13 survey appear to be out of line with recent results, and a comparison of the latest estimate to previous years may indicate that the trend, which has been falling since the peak in 1998, has gradually stabilised (Table 1.06).
For the US: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/teen-marijuana-use-... (sorry about huffpo. CDC need to have a better website.)
> The biennial High School Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance System survey from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revealed that the rate of marijuana use among U.S. high school students remained virtually unchanged from 2011 to 2013. It's also about 3 percent less than the peak of teen marijuana use in 1999, when nearly 27 percent of teens said they had recently used marijuana, according to the CDC data.
> In 2013, 23.4 percent of American high-school-aged teens used marijuana one or more times in the 30 days before the survey, the data show. That's nearly even with 23.1 percent in 2011.
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This is a funny statement to me, since the initial federalization was supposed to exist without predisposing a much greater exercise in states rights than what we see today. (far fewer constraints on state law from federal) I'd adjust your statement: "What you are suggesting would only work if the level (of federal power we have NOW) didn't exist" That all being said, I'm not even sure my full level of pessimism is m…
This is a funny statement to me, since it ignores everything that happened after 1789. The evolution of a more centralized government was the result of conscious decisions by the public and lawmakers to overcome the challenges of a loose confederation. Hell, the Constitution itself was drafted to solve the problem of arbitrarily differing business rules and trade agreements between the several states.
As you say; it was drafted to solve the problem of differing business rules/trade, but the scope was originally VERY limited to interstate commerce. I simply don't see how it can be argued against that the purview has pretty distinctly expanded from then on.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
By "dangerous" I meant in the typical, colloquial sense (e.g. more likely to kill you in a shorter amount of time or what have you)...
I think you've taken in too much drug war propaganda. Heroin, if unadulterated, is incredibly safe. There are virtually no long-term health effects, and most overdoses/deaths are caused by it being unknown quality or cut with dangerous substances.[1] The only reason it's dangerous is prohibition [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin#Adverse_effects
Heroin downregulates receptors to such a degree that it can take a person months to years to never to feel normal again without opiates, depending on the length of habit.
A heroin addiction of as short a duration as three months can easily take someone 3-6 months to feel normal again from.
PAWS symptoms include anhedonia, lack of motivation, lack of concentration.
For people addicted to heroin for a decade, or for people who were addicted at young ages, they may never feel ok without long term opiate maintenance.
Heroin suppresses neurogenesis in the hippocampus.
Also, it should be made abundantly clear to anyone who has taken some oxycontin that heroin is not equivalent. A mild heroin addiction can develop in as little as three days of use, where oxycodone can be used for 2-3 weeks without developing significant withdrawal symptoms.
Heroin is more addictive than oxycodone, and it is easy to take doses that depress respiration while sleeping to unhealthy levels.
Heroin use can induce central sleep apnea in many people that use it. This is not healthy.
Drugs that downregulate receptors are incredibly irrational things to do compulsively.
Buy Feeling Good by David Burns and give yourself some cogntive behavioral therapy, please.
Heroin can make your world dark in a way you do not want to experience.
For anyone that wants to safely experiment with opiates, please stick to safer subsitutes like oxycodone, or opium.
If you want to experiment with heroin, never, ever do heroin more than two days in a row. Just two days is enough to produce some hangover effects. This is not the case with opium, or oxycodone.
And if you do have a habit, get some suboxone and get off heroin. The prohibition lifestyle will kill you.
I just buried a friend from an overdose.
Believe me, I really wish these weren't the facts. I wish heroin was as safe as this meme makes it out to be.
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#307What about the fact that drugs are incompatible with the lifestyle we want our society to have? Isn't it better instead of legalizing them to find the root cause which is forcing these people to seek escapism from reality in psychoactive substances? I don't want to live in a society of drug addicts, I want to live among people of sound mind, body and spirit, who conduct themselves honestly and honourable among their…
If I want to smoke a little pot on the weekends, I am going to do it. If you have a problem with it, I don't care, because you're not invited to my smokeout.
You are treading a dangerous line trying to write lifestyles into law. That's the same school of thought that people that oppose homosexuality and premarital sex use to to justify their unfair restrictions.
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#308The drug problem was studied years ago by the RAND corporation and the US Military - a pure cost-benefit analysis. They found that treatment and education are the most cost effective way to deal with the drug problem, and that prohibition was the most costly and ineffective means of dealing with it. Therefore the government understands that the war on drugs is likely to be unsuccessful, and we have to ask ourselves,…
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#309Forget questions of legality. Stop and ask this question: Why do we as a society need more and more and MORE mind-altering substances to cope with life? Seriously. Is society headed in the right direction if almost everyone needs some type of external chemical influence just to get through the week? I already have an answer.
Well, if you answered yes, then you used a mind-altering substance / external chemical influence for your personal enjoyment. Don't you deserve jail for this? I mean, shouldn't you have been able resist the urge to intoxicate yourself, and instead pushed yourself in the "right direction" of sobriety? Since you failed at this, we might as well throw the book at you for it, right?
Alternately, if you answered "no" to my above question(s), then you're a liar and you can see yourself out.
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#310The drug problem was studied years ago by the RAND corporation and the US Military - a pure cost-benefit analysis. They found that treatment and education are the most cost effective way to deal with the drug problem, and that prohibition was the most costly and ineffective means of dealing with it. Therefore the government understands that the war on drugs is likely to be unsuccessful, and we have to ask ourselves,…
Refer to the character Lawrence Kramer in "Bonfire of the Vanities" talking about feeding "the chow" into the criminal justice system.