The thing is it'd be very easy for Airbnb to fix this problem (more or less immediately) if they wanted to: "I agree not to us this dwelling for commercial purposes except as follows ...", leaving space for people to put down legitimate business uses such as remote software development. And then another section indemnifying Airbnb against suing them to collect legal damages, etc.
From the article Airbnb prohibits commercial filming without the consent of the host and agreed to pay Knapic's cleaning fees. So it seems like just telling people not to do something in the contract is not going to stop them.
Porn Industry Using Airbnb Rentals as Film Sets
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even better, mix in some QR code posters with illegitimate links to Marvel/Disney content. If even one somehow slips by the video editing crew, you're talking legal apocalypse .
No you're not. Scienter would apply.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this case, its more prohibition of a critical component of the porn industry [ no condom shoots ] that was necessary for them to be economically viable.
lots of industries are more "viable" (profitable) if you allow them to kill workers
> Using male condoms the right way, every time, can reduce (though not eliminate) the risk of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), including human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and viral hepatitis, as well as other diseases that may be transmitted through sex like Zika virus and Ebola. Using male condoms the right way, every time, can also help prevent pregnancy.
The existing safeguards aren't 100% but condoms aren't 100% either.
All you've really done by backing this is driving people to produce off the books and outside of the regulated area. All it did was add to their commute.
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#85Ah. Something tells me this is the real crux of the article...
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
No you're not. Scienter would apply.
Sure, but it would still create a legal mess and/or a large headache.
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#87>> The county told NBC4 if Lucas had filled out the permit application, the owner could have learned about the shoot before he filmed there. Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb. I'd be surprised if they are even digital. With due respect to homeowners, this is what happens if you rent your property. People will be ha…
> People will be having sex in your house even without the cameras. That's what people do. Without getting too graphic, there's a HUGE difference between people having sex for fun and a professional porn shoot. The latter is messy, smelly, and causes a surprising amount of lasting damage. There's a reason that so many porn studios film in hotels (and likewise, a reason that so many hotels refuse to rent rooms to peop…
I've been in a plenty of hotel rooms that suffered far worse damage than I could ever imagine a porn shoot causing. At least I've never watched any porn that involved throwing things through the window, setting the carpet on fire and the entire building reeking of weed.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
And most landlords and cities prohibit AirBnB-style rentals, but that has never stopped AirBnB.
Are you sure about that? You seem to missing any sort of a source.
There also exist services to ensure compliance - http://www.hostcompliance.com/
A quick google news search also turns up a lot of articles about cities banning / deciding on the legality of abnb.
Additionally, your post was likely downvoted because you dashed off an aggressive, cliched comment that could have been answered with less effort than it took to post to HN.
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#89>> The county told NBC4 if Lucas had filled out the permit application, the owner could have learned about the shoot before he filmed there. Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb. I'd be surprised if they are even digital. With due respect to homeowners, this is what happens if you rent your property. People will be ha…
"Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb." Hmm, if I understand you correctly, you are mistaken. If the permit is filed, the homeowner and the nearby homeowners will get paper notices taped to their doors a couple of days before the shoot (like this: http://www.wehodaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/filming-... ). The…
I felt his pain. I was recovering from a nervous breakdown, and needed a job that wouldn't physically wreck me.
We decided to sell video tapes. I'm not proud of it, but it happened. We flew down to Los Angeles, and went to the trade show. Every vendor was more slithery/slimey than the next.
I was trying to find one person I could trust, and it seemed like they were just all untrustworthy. I tried to keep an open mind.
We went to his childhood's friends house, who was supposedly a big deal in the porn video, now living big in LA. He offered us a business opportunity. It was basically give me 50 grand, and I'll set you up on the porn business. We stayed down there a week, and went to all the cd/video factories. We went to the print shops. We talked to the Photoshopers that made up the covers. We went to a few shoots.
What I learned, after I took a long shower. Yea, all the stereotypes were so true. I really went into it with an open mind. So what did I learn.
No one followed any Laws.
The shoots were Not permitted in any capacity.
Crew, even back then, the crew was small. A camera guy, and maybe an assistant. There's no such thing as Fluffers. I asked a Vice President from one of the bigger porn producers, and she said that's a myth. I will never forget her painting her nails with White-out. Really. And her final parting eloquent words, "I never pay retail!"
These are not cinematic masterpieces. You could shoot in a house, and it appeared as if no one was home.
They shot the new movies in rented houses. I don't think the owner had a clue what was going on. I hope they were rented. I felt like we were all trespassing some days.
In terms of movies. Well basically everyone stole from everyone else. They would seal footage, mix it around, and present it as original material. They would slap a slick cover on the video/dvd and sell it a new movie. They just didn't care about copyrights. They didn't care about anything besides making money. Their was a sence of gloom everywhere. It was not remotely sexy.
To make a long story short, my mom's boyfriend took the bait.
His best friend sold him a buch of beat up commercial vcrs. They literally had thousands of hours on them. Only about half of the machines worked. He supposedly bought the copyrights to 200 titles. Every on was out of copyright , or stolen. (I did warn my friend. I said we have been to three video facilities, and all the masters are the same? If the masters are so valuable why are they literally thrown around the facilities. Why arn't they in a safe?)
He tried to make it work, but he was scammed from the beginning. I did learn one lesson. When it comes to money, don't even trust your childhood best friend.
I helped him get the duplicating business started. I put in the electrical. All those lousy dublicating vcrs drew so many amps--the only thing we lucked out on was the building was wired for 480 volts. Twenty, twenty amp outlets, running #10 copper wire got the machine going. (I still can't figure out why the equipment shelfs were reading 90 volts. I made sure there was no metal to metal contact. I just couldn't figure it out. I had a guy with a EE degree from Berkley out and he couldn't fix the problem. We had 70 vcrs running. To this day I still don't know where that stray voltage came from. Maybe it was God saying no? That did run through my mind.)
Well he lost everything. Thank god most of it was credit card money, and he got an easy chapter 7 bankruptcy.
I will never forget the look on my mom's face when she asked me to photoshop a cover for Big Black Momma's house. She handed me the cd, and put her hands over her face. I told her, "Mom--he's not hurting anyone. I know it's embarrassing. Yes--your still a Christian."
She never told him, but was glad it ended, and he didn't become a porn mogal.
As to the original topic, if you are going to rent your home, it might be used in a porn film. Good luck getting anything out of these people--even if you did have a contract, and received a judgement.
To be honest, if a person rents out a house, they should able to do whatever they want in said house, as long as it's legal. If a person shoots a film in your rented house--oh, well? Get over it. You opened your home to strangers. As to morals--don't worry about other people. Worry about what you have the nerve to charge?
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. People get drunk, they bleed, they get sick and even die, the later being very rare in porn.
All those positions, all those retakes, on the couch, on the kitchen counters, in the stairwell. Plus there tend to be additional people on set besides the actors, having takeout food, smoke breaks, etc.