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Porn Industry Using Airbnb Rentals as Film Sets

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Re: Porn Industry Using Airbnb Rentals as Film Sets

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Post by FireBeyond »

benten10 wrote: post #13

The money-quote for me was: >>"When you force the industry from a well-equipped infrastructure like the Valley, with not only traditional sound stages, but a large number of easily rented homes where adult filming is permitted and encouraged, and push it to the margins, and to area and locations where people are not aware that adult film is being shot, you're seeing the beginning of an industry moving underground." A…

Funnily enough, in many cases, that's exactly what a lot of AirBnB renters are doing, too - illegally subletting their home, ignoring commercial hotel regulations, and the like.

"Only OUR disruption is okay! Yours isn't!"

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Post by sandworm101 »

chimeracoder wrote: post #42
sandworm101 wrote: post #9

>> The county told NBC4 if Lucas had filled out the permit application, the owner could have learned about the shoot before he filmed there. Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb. I'd be surprised if they are even digital. With due respect to homeowners, this is what happens if you rent your property. People will be ha…

> People will be having sex in your house even without the cameras. That's what people do. Without getting too graphic, there's a HUGE difference between people having sex for fun and a professional porn shoot. The latter is messy, smelly, and causes a surprising amount of lasting damage. There's a reason that so many porn studios film in hotels (and likewise, a reason that so many hotels refuse to rent rooms to peop…

Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. People get drunk, they bleed, they get sick and even die, the later being very rare in porn.

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Post by hipsterrific »

AznHisoka wrote: post #12
sandworm101 wrote: post #9

>> The county told NBC4 if Lucas had filled out the permit application, the owner could have learned about the shoot before he filmed there. Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb. I'd be surprised if they are even digital. With due respect to homeowners, this is what happens if you rent your property. People will be ha…

I agree. Don't want this to happen? Easy, don't rent your home out. Renting your home out comes with risks, and you do get rewarded for that risk, but there's still risks. Nobody is forcing you to rent it out.

That's a straw man. While no one is forcing me to rent it out, it's common courtesy to let your landlord know of any activities you wish to pursue. After all, it's not your property you're staying in, there's a reason why you're renting it. After all, people rent out their homes on AirBnB for leisure. What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of but sometimes it's necessary) but they're making a profit from your property. Not to mention the fact that they left this person's house a total mess which is already a dick move on the film makers part.

Re: Porn Industry Using Airbnb Rentals as Film Sets

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Post by chimeracoder »

sandworm101 wrote: post #52
chimeracoder wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People will be having sex in your house even without the cameras. That's what people do. Without getting too graphic, there's a HUGE difference between people having sex for fun and a professional porn shoot. The latter is messy, smelly, and causes a surprising amount of lasting damage. There's a reason that so many porn studios film in hotels (and likewise, a reason that so many hotels refuse to rent rooms to peop…

Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner. People get drunk, they bleed, they get sick and even die, the later being very rare in porn.

> Non-porn people are very capable of making a real mess. Talk to any hotel cleaner.

I'm well aware that sex can be messy, and I still maintain that professional pornographic shoots are far worse.

It sounds reasonable to compare the two, unless you've ever been on the set of a professional pornographic shoot.

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Post by oldmanjay »

hipsterrific wrote: post #53
AznHisoka wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Don't want this to happen? Easy, don't rent your home out. Renting your home out comes with risks, and you do get rewarded for that risk, but there's still risks. Nobody is forcing you to rent it out.

That's a straw man. While no one is forcing me to rent it out, it's common courtesy to let your landlord know of any activities you wish to pursue. After all, it's not your property you're staying in, there's a reason why you're renting it. After all, people rent out their homes on AirBnB for leisure. What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of…

"Common courtesy" and "contracts" don't belong in the same conversation. It's a recipe for having people take advantage.

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Post by anigbrowl »

rl3 wrote: post #30
beloch wrote: post #18

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It sounds like a useful tactic would be to plaster your walls with art related to Disney/Marvel characters. This would make it a legal nightmare to film in without stripping the place bare.

Even better, mix in some QR code posters with illegitimate links to Marvel/Disney content. If even one somehow slips by the video editing crew, you're talking legal apocalypse .

No you're not. Scienter would apply.

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Post by dragonwriter »

hipsterrific wrote: post #53
AznHisoka wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Don't want this to happen? Easy, don't rent your home out. Renting your home out comes with risks, and you do get rewarded for that risk, but there's still risks. Nobody is forcing you to rent it out.

That's a straw man. While no one is forcing me to rent it out, it's common courtesy to let your landlord know of any activities you wish to pursue. After all, it's not your property you're staying in, there's a reason why you're renting it. After all, people rent out their homes on AirBnB for leisure. What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of…

> What porn film makers are doing is capitalizing on AirBnB rentals by circumventing not only regulations (not a fan of but sometimes it's necessary) but they're making a profit from your property.

What many people renting property out on AirBnB are doing is not only circumventing regulation (regarding, e.g., short-term occupancy rentals) and rental contract provisions (with their own landlords), but also making a profit from someone else's property.

AirBnB has largely grown, and knowingly leverages (with deliberate structure to try to keep the legal risks that result on other parties in the transaction), exactly this kind of evasion of regulatory and contract restriction to make profit off of other people's property.

So, while its been well-known to occur on the side of the transaction renting-out property via AirBnB, it shouldn't be too surprising that it happens on the other side of the transaction as well.

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Post by phjesusthatguy3 »

chimeracoder wrote: post #42
sandworm101 wrote: post #9

>> The county told NBC4 if Lucas had filled out the permit application, the owner could have learned about the shoot before he filmed there. Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb. I'd be surprised if they are even digital. With due respect to homeowners, this is what happens if you rent your property. People will be ha…

> People will be having sex in your house even without the cameras. That's what people do. Without getting too graphic, there's a HUGE difference between people having sex for fun and a professional porn shoot. The latter is messy, smelly, and causes a surprising amount of lasting damage. There's a reason that so many porn studios film in hotels (and likewise, a reason that so many hotels refuse to rent rooms to peop…

"Lucas contends that the film is the most expensive gay porn film ever made due to a budget of $250,000 and multiple celebrity cameos." -- your wikipedia link.

So, doesn't literally hold the world record.

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Post by anigbrowl »

x0x0 wrote: post #44
fweespeech wrote: post #26

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In this case, its more prohibition of a critical component of the porn industry [ no condom shoots ] that was necessary for them to be economically viable.

lots of industries are more "viable" (profitable) if you allow them to kill workers

The industry doesn't willingly kill workers. The whole mandatory HIV testing routine was originated within the industry. I know quite a lot of sex workers and they don't appreciate this so-called 'help' from people outside the industry.

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Post by sandworm101 »

kbenson wrote: post #49
mturmon wrote: post #41

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"Lol. The data on a form filed for a porn shoot at a particular location will not find its way into the hands of someone renting on airbnb." Hmm, if I understand you correctly, you are mistaken. If the permit is filed, the homeowner and the nearby homeowners will get paper notices taped to their doors a couple of days before the shoot (like this: http://www.wehodaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/filming-... ). The…

> commercial users of your property for shoots treat it much differently than casual travel users will. There will be a big crew, they will have bulky/heavy equipment, they will be focused on getting a job done and they won't care about dinging up your walls, etc., in the process. A week later, you will discover something broken. I imagine it's likely to be used as a location for some "reality" porn series (which are…

What many don't realize is that a "porn shoot" doesn't film just the handful of scenes for one dvd or website. A well-run production company will bring in multiple teams to film perhaps dozens of sequences in a day. One truth about porn is that, like sitcoms, they do not require large sets. So it isn't difficult to squeeze multiple teams into a house. But the upside for neighbors is that those smaller sets don't need the generators and massive lighting rigs used to illuminate wide shots.

That's traditional porn. The other side are the smaller websites, often dedicated to a single actress. They want a site they can film very quietly over a couple days, usually a weekend. This is one camera, one or two lights and never more than a handful of people. They can come and go without even a van, without anyone noticing anything. Some call this "amateur", but I think that term doesn't do these productions justice.

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