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Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

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post #75

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It's the same reason we have to include ' ' when we want the browser to use HTML5. It's the same reason XHTML failed and we had to deal with quirks mode for years before HTML5. Backwards compatibility sucks.

You only need to do , without the 5.

And that's why I program instead of web design.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#82
post #75

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You only need to do , without the 5.

And that's why I program instead of web design.

Are you saying web design isn't programming? HTML isn't (although HTML5 can be if you use canvas etc), but javascript sure is.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#83
post #40

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Because it's difficult to read.

Are you saying that you think that Comic Sans is difficult to read? (I'm prepared to believe you, but the main complaint I've ever heard is that it's "silly" or "frivolous" or... well, actually I haven't heard much beyond that.)

It draws too much attention to itself to be body text, yes. It requires the reader scan the letters more than recognizing the shapes of words and moving on. (Yes, this is why we miss misspellings and even missing words. It isn't my job as a reader to catch that. The author should have a spellcheck program and, if it's at all serious, a human proofreader.)

There's a reason there's a distinction between fonts for body text and title text: Body text is all pretty simple, uniform, and easy to just scan through. Title text is meant to be a logo in its own right, more difficult to read, and therefore take up more of your time. Comic Sans is, arguably, a reasonable title text font. It isn't for body text. It's meant to ape handwritten text in comic speech balloons, but if you look at actual good handwriting, it looks more like body text than title text.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#84

I guess the idea of putting comic sans MS as a way to force companies into putting relevant customised status error messages for users has failed. EDIT see here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9240906 For 500 a ticketing or a contact info to report the problem For a 404 whatever can help the user finds it way For congestion status a link to a status page? For stuff 40? that requires payment a link with a link f…

I could not find a config setting for httpd in OpenBSD that allows me to specify custom status pages.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#85

Be nice with the poor server. Text mirror (pastebin): http://dpaste.com/3E9B7BB.txt

Seems like they succeeded in their objects of "annoying web hipsters"?

Hi! I am the patch submitter and I just wanted to make an honest contribution to fix something I thought was broken. I could not find a way to specify custom status pages in OpenBSD httpd.

The smart quote error was my mistake. I figured patches to email lists should be submitted in a signed email message and used Mail.app for the first time in a while (where I have it configured). Didn't see the auto corrected quote before sending. Contributed a new corrected patch which I hope works better.

I guess this patch will never be considered if the use of Comic sans is intentionally hard coded into httpd but at least I tried.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#86
post #61

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> And yet about once or twice a week there's someone new > coming with some demand, backward idea or GPL evangelism, > who gets aggressive when challenged. You forgot to mention the people who try to spam the lists with propaganda for their own rando OpenBSD fork or derivative. As a regular reader of openbsd-misc, considering the relatively low volume of the list, the frequency with which people just storm in with ba…

You are in a maze of gpio pins, all alike, all undocumented, and a few are wired to bombs. Is this theo.c what it appears to be?

It is exactly what it appears to be.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

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post #80

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> it's difficult to read. It's recommended for readers with dyslexia because the letter shapes vary so much. (I don't know if there's any research supporting that).

Which is exactly why it's distracting to fluent readers.

That's an interesting claim. Do you have any evidence/references to back that up?

(I mean, it makes intuitive sense, but that's not really a good indicator of... anything, really.)

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#89
post #83

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Are you saying that you think that Comic Sans is difficult to read? (I'm prepared to believe you, but the main complaint I've ever heard is that it's "silly" or "frivolous" or... well, actually I haven't heard much beyond that.)

It draws too much attention to itself to be body text, yes. It requires the reader scan the letters more than recognizing the shapes of words and moving on. (Yes, this is why we miss misspellings and even missing words. It isn't my job as a reader to catch that. The author should have a spellcheck program and, if it's at all serious, a human proofreader.) There's a reason there's a distinction between fonts for body…

> It draws too much attention to itself to be body text, yes

That's about the vaguest complaint I've ever heard. If you have statistics and studies then I'm definitely prepared to listen, but...

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