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Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

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https://web.archive.org/web/20140625075722/http://www.libres... > This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters. Donate now to stop the Comic Sans and Blink Tags All the OpenBSD presentations I've read have been in Comic Sans. They really like that font :)

Didn't their weaponization of Comic Sans start with LibreSSL?

OpenBSD's been using it way before they started LibreSSL

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#72

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The shame of it is that misc posts asking for help are frequently ignored while any troll can pop up asking about LibertyBSD or the GPL and fresh replies roll in for a week or more. Misc needs more self-restraint.

Most of the questions that aren't answered in manuals do get attention. Manuals exist for a reason and reading them is one of the core requirements for using OpenBSD and asking questions on various lists. Theo once said (quoting him sounds super preachy, I know) that "if you can't study the world around you, you will remain ignorant", and this perfectly reflect what is truly important about OpenBSD lists. This and un…

+1. The one time I asked a question on an openbsd list, I got quality off-list replies from the developers themselves within 24 hours.

If you do your homework and follow the netiquette, things get answered. It's a great community. I just wish people would leave it alone and I wish misc@ would not engage trolls.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#73
post #5

The hate for Comic Sans seemingly knows no bounds.

Mine also knew no bounds until I found out my grand daughter likes it. So Ive been using it more and more in applications she may see.

It is a pretty clean typeface, her name looks nice laser burned into her music box. YMMV

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#74
post #29

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Interestingly, my browser detects the page as Windows-1252 and displays that quote as ”

That's because marc.info doesn't supply a Content-Type header (or equivalent tag) to specify encoding, so the browser must assume it's using some 8-bit one. On most computers in Western Europe, the US and so on, it'll assume Windows-1252. You have to explicitly specify you want UTF-8 to get it. This would seem to be strange since it's The Encoding now, but assuming 8-bit is necessary for backwards-compatibility, I'm…

It's the same reason we have to include '' when we want the browser to use HTML5. It's the same reason XHTML failed and we had to deal with quirks mode for years before HTML5. Backwards compatibility sucks.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#75

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That's because marc.info doesn't supply a Content-Type header (or equivalent tag) to specify encoding, so the browser must assume it's using some 8-bit one. On most computers in Western Europe, the US and so on, it'll assume Windows-1252. You have to explicitly specify you want UTF-8 to get it. This would seem to be strange since it's The Encoding now, but assuming 8-bit is necessary for backwards-compatibility, I'm…

It's the same reason we have to include ' ' when we want the browser to use HTML5. It's the same reason XHTML failed and we had to deal with quirks mode for years before HTML5. Backwards compatibility sucks.

You only need to do , without the 5.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#76

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> And yet about once or twice a week there's someone new > coming with some demand, backward idea or GPL evangelism, > who gets aggressive when challenged. You forgot to mention the people who try to spam the lists with propaganda for their own rando OpenBSD fork or derivative. As a regular reader of openbsd-misc, considering the relatively low volume of the list, the frequency with which people just storm in with ba…

The shame of it is that misc posts asking for help are frequently ignored while any troll can pop up asking about LibertyBSD or the GPL and fresh replies roll in for a week or more. Misc needs more self-restraint.

I read everything that gets posted on misc, and my impression is that most questions get good answers. There are a couple people who are abrasive and will occasionally step in to tell someone off (even when others are helping), but I think the overall quality of responses is pretty decent. Troll posts certainly get a lot of attention though, I've seen it happen a number. :/

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

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> And yet about once or twice a week there's someone new > coming with some demand, backward idea or GPL evangelism, > who gets aggressive when challenged. You forgot to mention the people who try to spam the lists with propaganda for their own rando OpenBSD fork or derivative. As a regular reader of openbsd-misc, considering the relatively low volume of the list, the frequency with which people just storm in with ba…

The shame of it is that misc posts asking for help are frequently ignored while any troll can pop up asking about LibertyBSD or the GPL and fresh replies roll in for a week or more. Misc needs more self-restraint.

There's an old story that you can get more help on the Internet by posting bad advice and having people correct you, than actually asking for help.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#79

https://web.archive.org/web/20140625075722/http://www.libres... > This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters. Donate now to stop the Comic Sans and Blink Tags All the OpenBSD presentations I've read have been in Comic Sans. They really like that font :)

In random browsing of the Internet for networking-related topics, slide decks that I come across seem to use Comic Sans a lot more than usual too. I'm not sure if there are OpenBSD (or other BSDs) associations with that, as one of the first popular networking APIs was the Berkeley sockets.

Re: No comic sans in httpd status pages

#80
post #40

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Because it's difficult to read.

> it's difficult to read. It's recommended for readers with dyslexia because the letter shapes vary so much. (I don't know if there's any research supporting that).

Which is exactly why it's distracting to fluent readers.
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