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Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Xi Jin Ping is worse than King jong un. He is a stupid and arrogant leader. He want people in China to call him "习大大(xi big big)", but actually we like to call him "习包子(xi bao zi)"

I don't speak chinese; can you explain why xi bao zi is not flattering? Thanks!

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Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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China's leadership seems to be becoming more paranoid. Yet China has no serious external enemies other than the ones they make for themselves, the economy is stressed a bit but production is in great shape, and the standard of living has been rising for years. Why?

Because the west has been stepping up propaganda.

I remember 5 years ago, most outlets had very pro-China things to say. Now it's undoubtedly taken a very negative turn. Daily stories about China's impending economic collapse, their various 'crackdowns', and so on. Even this article. To be honest, half of the stuff they want to ban isn't even allowable in Canadian media (literally, 3 out of 6 bullet points are strait up illegal in Canada), and we're hardly a totalitarian state.

But when western media and NGOs are stepping up the propaganda and support for violent secessionist groups (Occupy HK took a violent turn recently, some Uighur groups are strait up terrorists with US support), China has to do something. A collapse would be catastrophic, yet that's exactly what the US government is trying to achieve (as evidenced by Syria).

Edit - Anyone want to address these points? Or is the propaganda working too well?

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China's leadership seems to be becoming more paranoid. Yet China has no serious external enemies other than the ones they make for themselves, the economy is stressed a bit but production is in great shape, and the standard of living has been rising for years. Why?

My brother in law lived there for years and claims that the general sense is that if the leadership can't maintain at least 5-10% GDP growth forever they will lose favor. People there are very unsatisfied with the government but they're also afraid of revolution. Paranoia seems a good description of the government's mentality.

Are exponential functions taught in China?

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Are you a Chinese national? Just wondering what your thoughts on the reasons for this move are.

It seems that the wealthiest Chinese are quickly leaving China for the US. I believe that this will have negative impacts on their long term growth.

I always wondered why the US has never seemed all that concerned with their trade deficit with China. Imports and paid for with exports, after all.

It turns out that the US has been playing a long game. America imports cargo containers filled with manufactured goods, and exports one-way, first-class plane tickets to America (and Vancouver), for use by the Chinese nouveaux-riches.

Brilliant. Devious and brilliant. The dollars never need to be exchanged into yuan, because they come back inside immigration-curious pockets. Export the factory; import the tycoon carrying the factory profits. And if China tries to stop it in the usual way, the brain drain only worsens. It's more like a brain siphoning.

But taking the foil hat off, it's probably just entirely accidental. Not that the US wouldn't milk it for maximum benefit anyway, but it's just too much like the outcome of a cursed monkey's paw wish to have been planned that way.

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China's leadership seems to be becoming more paranoid. Yet China has no serious external enemies other than the ones they make for themselves, the economy is stressed a bit but production is in great shape, and the standard of living has been rising for years. Why?

My brother in law lived there for years and claims that the general sense is that if the leadership can't maintain at least 5-10% GDP growth forever they will lose favor. People there are very unsatisfied with the government but they're also afraid of revolution. Paranoia seems a good description of the government's mentality.

> People there are very unsatisfied with the government but they're also afraid of revolution.

Sounds like the west. Yet we're too fat, lazy and complacent to do anything. Bernie and Trump are achieving some success because of this, but in the end Hillary will win (possibly through some sort of shenanigans), continue towards Obama and the establishment's police state, and once again the people will lose.

It's funny how people talk about dissatisfaction in non-western countries, without realized that people are very dissatisfied in the west...

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China's leadership seems to be becoming more paranoid. Yet China has no serious external enemies other than the ones they make for themselves, the economy is stressed a bit but production is in great shape, and the standard of living has been rising for years. Why?

Umm...here

- China's total debt risen to 346% of GDP in 2015. http://seekingalpha.com/article/3852886-chinese-debt-problem...

- China exports fall 11.2% in January, imports down 18.8% http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/14/china-releases-trade-data-for...

- China’s $6.7 trillion bond market is flashing the same danger signs that triggered a tumble in stocks http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2015/10/10/...

- China Capital Outflows Rise to Estimated $1 Trillion in 2015 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-25/china-capi...

- China's Net Capital Outflows Probably Hit $113 Billion In January http://www.actionforex.com/analysis/daily-forex-fundamentals...

- "Chinese banks will lose approximately $3.5 trillion of equity if China's banking system loses 10 percent of assets" (all of its reserve would be gone) http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/10/kyle-bass-china-banks-may-los...

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Say you are driving 10 mph over the speed limit on a 60 mph highway for an hour, the maximum time savings is less than 10 minutes out of an hour. If the trip is shorter or you have stop, turns, traffic, the savings are even less. So in most cases except long distance drives, the savings are minimal. It is just that we are all impatient.

10 minutes seems like a pretty substantial amount of time to me.

Sure but it that is the best case. In my own experience, traffic can impact those numbers substantially. And just some bad luck with traffic signals can eliminate most of those savings as the slow/fast cars tend to get synchronized.

Just the other day I was driving down the narrow roads of a nearby hill and there is a section with single lanes with lots of traffic moving at 35 mph. One lady comes weaving down the traffic on both sides to get in front of the crowd with a net savings until when the lanes opened up of 30 seconds. So much risk to everyone for what little benefit.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Xi Jin Ping is worse than King jong un. He is a stupid and arrogant leader. He want people in China to call him "习大大(xi big big)", but actually we like to call him "习包子(xi bao zi)"

I don't speak chinese; can you explain why xi bao zi is not flattering? Thanks!

baozi is a traditionsl food of China. When xi came to power at the very beginning, a picture is shown in main stream media of China that Xi devouring his BaoZi and paying for his meal just like everyone else. Xi's performance is too bad, all the people know that is just a show. Now Xi show its true feature, he is not a man of the people, he is just a Dictator.

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To me this looks like a big win for companies based in China. The social media companies for the billion people in China will be employing local people, and the advertising revenue will stay within China. Not that this is the main goal of the ban though..

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I am not a sociologist, political scientist, or an economist. It appears that China is too big to govern and has become a diseconomy of scale. China has 160 cities with over 1-million people in them (US has 10 cities) and I think it's a miracle that the lights still work and they have running water. When you double the size of a plane it it becomes 4-times heavier (Observe what it takes to fly a B-52). The PRC seems…

If nations had institutional-DNA I'd say modern China has probably inherited at least a few traits that aided its sprawl-prone predecessors. (Whether they'll be enough for modern challenges is, of course, another question.)
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