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Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by jimbokun »

mc32 wrote: post #24
sharetea wrote: post #19

And so it starts. Economic collapse will prompt the dictatorship in China to - Increase anti-foreign rhetorics in media. Don't like it, Microsoft? tough - Ban Foreign services. Don't like it, Uber? tough - Devalue Yuan by 50%. Don't like it, Apple? tough - Nationalize foreign assets. Don't like it, Ford? tough

I don't think they'd go that far. They're mainly interested in controlling information. Nationalization, that would only accelerate the decline of the economy by spooking foreign companies who would soon high tail it leaving behind tons of idle machinery and idle workers, something the PLA would rather avoid.

I think this decision will accelerate the spooking of foreign companies. Need to take a long hard look at whether your industry is one where China will want foreign investment over the long term.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by jimbokun »

danmaz74 wrote: post #23
sharetea wrote: post #19

And so it starts. Economic collapse will prompt the dictatorship in China to - Increase anti-foreign rhetorics in media. Don't like it, Microsoft? tough - Ban Foreign services. Don't like it, Uber? tough - Devalue Yuan by 50%. Don't like it, Apple? tough - Nationalize foreign assets. Don't like it, Ford? tough

> Devalue Yuan by 50%. Don't like it, Apple? tough Why wouldn't Apple like this? Their manufacturing costs would become much lower, and they would rack up even more billions in profits.

Apple is looking to China for further sales growth. Fewer Chinese buying iPhones is probably a bigger problem for them than higher manufacturing costs.

Tim Cook has already made a big deal about "currency headwinds" to explain Apple's slowing revenue growth.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by chatmasta »

dageshi wrote: post #13

Sounds like the normal thing in China. Make something illegal, don't enforce it, if someone's saying something you don't like then enforce it specifically against them, keeps everyone else in line.

Yes, the mountains are high and the emperor is far away. ;)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tian_gao,_Huangdi_yuan

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by pkaye »

jimbokun wrote: post #38
bsder wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harsh enforcement also causes their revenue to drop. Several of the towns which depended upon speed traps for their funding found out that the Internet is a good resource for letting people know to avoid an area. This will be interesting when self-driving cars don't ever disobey traffic laws.

Hadn't thought about this before your comment, but this could be a reason for continuing to drive themselves. If they are willing to exceed the speed limit, they can get to their destination faster than a self driving car with speed limit enforced by software.

Say you are driving 10 mph over the speed limit on a 60 mph highway for an hour, the maximum time savings is less than 10 minutes out of an hour. If the trip is shorter or you have stop, turns, traffic, the savings are even less. So in most cases except long distance drives, the savings are minimal. It is just that we are all impatient.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by deciplex »

pkaye wrote: post #26
dageshi wrote: post #13

Sounds like the normal thing in China. Make something illegal, don't enforce it, if someone's saying something you don't like then enforce it specifically against them, keeps everyone else in line.

Selective enforcement of laws in very common in many countries. If they enforce is too harshly then people will protest. For example exceeding the speed limit while driving.

It's more common in countries where rule of law has broken down, for exactly the reason dageshi is talking about: you can make the laws harsh and as long as they are broadly not enforced people will not care, but it gives you cover to go after your domestic enemies.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by bittercynic »

pkaye wrote: post #44
jimbokun wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hadn't thought about this before your comment, but this could be a reason for continuing to drive themselves. If they are willing to exceed the speed limit, they can get to their destination faster than a self driving car with speed limit enforced by software.

Say you are driving 10 mph over the speed limit on a 60 mph highway for an hour, the maximum time savings is less than 10 minutes out of an hour. If the trip is shorter or you have stop, turns, traffic, the savings are even less. So in most cases except long distance drives, the savings are minimal. It is just that we are all impatient.

10 minutes seems like a pretty substantial amount of time to me.

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by HillaryBriss »

dageshi wrote: post #13

Sounds like the normal thing in China. Make something illegal, don't enforce it, if someone's saying something you don't like then enforce it specifically against them, keeps everyone else in line.

Kill the chicken to scare the monkey.

http://www.studychineseinchina.com/community/knowledge-base/...

Re: Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

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Post by HillaryBriss »

jimbokun wrote: post #38
bsder wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harsh enforcement also causes their revenue to drop. Several of the towns which depended upon speed traps for their funding found out that the Internet is a good resource for letting people know to avoid an area. This will be interesting when self-driving cars don't ever disobey traffic laws.

Hadn't thought about this before your comment, but this could be a reason for continuing to drive themselves. If they are willing to exceed the speed limit, they can get to their destination faster than a self driving car with speed limit enforced by software.

Kill the self-driving car to scare the robot
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