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Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#141
It's merely plateau'd. That's not something that brings news.

If you graph the popularity I would say the derivative gives you newsworthiness (golang, julia) but the integral gives you the popularity.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#142
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That may be a view through the distorted HN lenses. Spend some time on Lambda the Ultimate and you'll think imperative programming is dying. Go is new and has lots of issues. It's annoying on many fronts and badly needs improvements in packaging area. It's good for some things and worse for others. JS is for frontend, because it's the only supported language. (although there are python-to-js compilers available if yo…

My prediction is that one day some alternative Python interpreter (Stackless, or GIL-less, or which compiles ahead of time to machine code, or something like that) will go from being merely an interesting concept to a dominant runtime. Python is such an excellent language, and it only has a small handful of elements holding it back from being even better. I feel like eventually something has to give, and either there…

It's unlikely unless someone with deep pockets steps up, such as a corporate benefactor. But it will continue to improve as it does every other year.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#143
As a JS developer I think python is strong than ever before , it can use not only in web but also in data analysis. The coming Big Data trend can lead extensive use of python. The LIGO Scientific Collaboration announced that they use python when in their first direct detection of gravitational waves. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/45g8qu/we_are_the_lig... And they are also make some lib of python they used open source in github. https://github.com/ligo-cbc It is excited , isn't it ? Thanks to these news , I have decided to continue learning python since I break it off two years ago.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#144

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Wow that is a surprise. No-one even seems to talk about perl anymore.

They're too busy getting paid writing Perl.

lol .. It's still pretty shocking. I know lots of programmers, including some that used to write lots of Perl, and none of them are still working on it. Those job numbers are crazy.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#145
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You will have to reach a little deeper for machine learning methods not supported by Julia. XGBoost has a Julia interface and you can google Julia SVM for myriad of alternatives. Packages like Mocha and MXNet are a few deep learning alternatives. PyCall is also an easy solution for interfacing with Python for things such as pyspark. It also has some of the most convenient to use parallel / distributed computing tools…

If Julia just want to replace Python as the glue interface, it seems to have no chance winning...What it can do, as a glue layer, that Python cannot do?

It's not meant to compete with Python as a glue language. The point is that you can start using Julia right now and be productive by calling other languages' libraries to fill in the holes.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#146
post #21

I think it's HN echo chamber. A lot of articles here about new exciting technologies, but when you look at job postings for example this is not the same song. I'm very excited about Elixir for example. There is a new Elixir blog post/article/github repo posted on HN every day, you would think that Elixir is the new cool thing. Well, not easy to find companies that actually use it.

yes, but are these articles early sensitive indicators of things to come or just esoteric blovation?

I think they're an indication that people find something interesting, which is often because it's novel.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#147
post #5

That may be a view through the distorted HN lenses. Spend some time on Lambda the Ultimate and you'll think imperative programming is dying. Go is new and has lots of issues. It's annoying on many fronts and badly needs improvements in packaging area. It's good for some things and worse for others. JS is for frontend, because it's the only supported language. (although there are python-to-js compilers available if yo…

My prediction is that one day some alternative Python interpreter (Stackless, or GIL-less, or which compiles ahead of time to machine code, or something like that) will go from being merely an interesting concept to a dominant runtime. Python is such an excellent language, and it only has a small handful of elements holding it back from being even better. I feel like eventually something has to give, and either there…

I totally agree with this. I think the Python community is becoming increasingly aware that this is the next major fix. I thinking 3-4 years before we see it, but we need to stay vigilant and make sure it happens.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#148
post #57

Not in my sphere of activity. I have a friend who recently started his PhD... and is moving all of his development from C/C++/Fortran to Python. Numerical code even - he just doesn't want to bother.

Citing this example isn't very convincing.

Would be more interesting to know what language he uses when he finishes his Ph.D.

Re: Ask HN: Is Python dying?

#149
post #5

That may be a view through the distorted HN lenses. Spend some time on Lambda the Ultimate and you'll think imperative programming is dying. Go is new and has lots of issues. It's annoying on many fronts and badly needs improvements in packaging area. It's good for some things and worse for others. JS is for frontend, because it's the only supported language. (although there are python-to-js compilers available if yo…

My prediction is that one day some alternative Python interpreter (Stackless, or GIL-less, or which compiles ahead of time to machine code, or something like that) will go from being merely an interesting concept to a dominant runtime. Python is such an excellent language, and it only has a small handful of elements holding it back from being even better. I feel like eventually something has to give, and either there…

A slightly leaner object model with a fast runtime would make it perfect.
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