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Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Can we grow up and get over the stupid fucking "pencil sticking out of the iPad" meme? The thing charges enough for several days' usage in ONE MINUTE. Get over it, people. Same thing for Magic Mouse. You think you can design it better? You have a better place for that port? The damn thing needs a few MINUTES of charge time per month. It's a non-issue. The port is exactly where it should be.

You might be willing to give them a mulligan on their recent design choices, but I'm not. Apple has historically had smart, sensible designs -- even Apple haters can't deny that. The amount of time required to charge doesn't change the fact that no reasonable person would consider the pencil or the mouse charging method a good design. >> Same thing for Magic Mouse. You think you can design it better? You have a bette…

Nope. If you look at the actual design, there is not space for a port there. It's only a solved problem if you're content to bulk up the mouse in that particular area, for something that, again, takes a few minutes a month.

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My Dell M3800 has everything a MBP has, including the aluminum enclosure and Thunderbolt port, and more, such as 15.6 4K touchscreen and multiple USB ports. Oh, and it's also repairable.

It looks very nice! How's the battery life? This review seems to indicate it sits at under two thirds of the MBPs: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2458699,00.asp Also, just for clarification, do you mean self-repairable? The review said it, like the MBP, has non-standard screw heads making repair difficult. Thoughts?

I don't know about self-repairable...yet. Mine's still under warranty, but that's almost up and I haven't had to use it.

I do use it plugged in most of the time, but I suspect that the review is spot on with the battery life. I maybe get a little more since I don't do much in the way of video, and I have my screen dimmed and my CPU in passive cooling mode.

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Maybe not important for you but crucial for me; the M3800 has dismal battery life. And probably with Linux that is even worse.

I'm running an M3800 with Mint Linux 17.3. I can squeeze 2 hours out of the battery if I really need to; suspend/hibernate is currently completely broken, requiring that I cold boot the machine each time I open the lid; bluetooth has never worked properly, even after extracting the proprietary firmware from the Windows drivers. And this is on a machine that shipped from Dell with Ubuntu 14.04 installed, so supposedly…

I get 5-6 hours with Windows 8.1. I have a dimmed screen and passive CPU cooling when on battery, and I don't do much video.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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post #397

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Can we grow up and get over the stupid fucking "pencil sticking out of the iPad" meme? The thing charges enough for several days' usage in ONE MINUTE. Get over it, people. Same thing for Magic Mouse. You think you can design it better? You have a better place for that port? The damn thing needs a few MINUTES of charge time per month. It's a non-issue. The port is exactly where it should be.

You might be willing to give them a mulligan on their recent design choices, but I'm not. Apple has historically had smart, sensible designs -- even Apple haters can't deny that. The amount of time required to charge doesn't change the fact that no reasonable person would consider the pencil or the mouse charging method a good design. >> Same thing for Magic Mouse. You think you can design it better? You have a bette…

"Apple has historically had smart, sensible designs"

the puck?

http://www.applegazette.com/mac/apple-puck-mouse-named-one-o...

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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post #145

I had a debate about this the other day with a friend. I am firmly of the belief the quality is bordering on poor and that if this was a decade ago, the Apple fanboys would be all over Microsoft for the same performance - remember the taunts about Windows performance and crashing from the Switch campaign? I'm sick of constant random iOS reboots, out of date OpenGL, poor/reduced quality apps (Photos I'm looking at you…

> iOS reboots Is that common? I have and use a 5s for years now and I have a spontanious reboot every 6 months maybe. And I am a very active user. Same for my wife (same phone). I have a new Samsung as well; it gets stuck every 2 days enough to have to reboot it.

It hasn't been that common since the latest updates but particularly early iOS9 was very frustrating.

I see it most commonly when using Safari or AirPlaying anything, but have also had it happen randomly when using Settings, presumably because Springboard.app has died.

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> extra annoying part is that Apple's total lack of reputability is starting to spread to competing products Oh, please. Apple has nothing to do with that problem. The problem is we're a throw away society hell bent on buying the latest greatest thing. If it's anyone's fault, it's our own.

Well, I didn't mean "this is Apple's fault" as much as "serviceability problems traditionally associated with Apple devices are now common industry wide" - and are now hard to avoid even if you look at other brands, as the person I was replying to said they would. I do understand that, ultimately, companies are just delivering what most consumers want.

Apple is part of the karma, is sorta what you're saying! :)

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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My usual counterpoint is, I've been installing Linux on a wide variety of hardware, desktops, random laptops, etc., for a long time with virtually no problems, but I'm a little particular about the distro I use... Since Mageia broke off from Mandriva in 2011, I've used them exclusively (and I used Mandriva before that, since 2009). I'm not sure how they do it, or what the magic is, but they have been absolutely flawl…

I bought an Intel NUC two years ago, and it refused to boot Linux without a firmware update, which was not easy to apply. After installation, its IR port didn't work, and its HDMI output had tearing, which I was able to fix by editing xorg.conf. Based on my experience, Linux still needs a lot of fiddling before it works properly. I didn't try Mageia. Alt distros are intimidating since most technical advice is for mai…

Mageia is the best spin (it used to be redhat v5-based), but is not as stress-tested as others, and has (slightly) less support than you'd find for Fedora/Red Hat/SuSE.

Just run Redhat or Ubuntu. You are looking for a "just works" experience, so stick with the binary sandbox those distros give you. You can even pay them money in order to get the better support experience you definitely need.

If anyone tells you to switch to something different, know it will require you to hand-tweak scary text files. if that sounds fun, dive in. Otherwise, run away screaming. You want a stable (read: long-term support) release of software.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Snow Leopard was the peak, in my experience; like you, I felt like each new version of OS X through 10.6.8 came as an improvement. Since then, I greet each new release with a sigh - "okay, let's find out what previously straightforward process they've decided to complicate with a bunch of fancy animations this time".

I think people mythologize Snow Leopard. Personally I had multiple very annoying issues[1] in SL that were never resolved until I upgraded to Lion. While I wont say that OS X release after SL have been bug free or had fewer bugs than SL it has always been a trade off - some things got better and others got worse. The only constant is iTunes, it seems to get progressively worse with every release :( [1] https://discus…

It's not that Snow Leopard had fewer bugs than its successors, but that it was the last update which clearly had fewer bugs than its predecessors. Since then, each new version has changed things around without seeming to make life better overall.

What's more, as the iOS tail has come to wag the Mac OS dog, Apple's concept of an "improvement" has increasingly diverged from mine. Most of the things they've added since Snow Leopard have ranged from useless to annoying as far as I'm concerned. I don't want an app store, I don't understand workspaces, the new fullscreen mode makes my second monitor worthless. Every new version seems to have new hotkeys and swipe gestures that do strange and incomprehensible things when I trigger them by accident, which I would disable if I had any idea what they were called or where to look for their settings.

I don't think this is just an age thing, either, or a romanticism about the past; my family got our first Macintosh in 1985, and I have used every single version of Mac OS since System 0.9. There have definitely been better and worse eras. I have nostalgic feelings about System 5, and to a lesser extent about Mac OS 8. I don't so much feel nostalgic about 10.6.8 as I have simply felt annoyed by each update since.

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Mailto links open chrome with a gmail tab for me.

I just successfully changed it, but it was a janky experience. Until I added an account to the mail app, the preference used to change the default email reader remained greyed out because I was being prompted to add an email account. Only once I added a fake account did the preference option become available and let me change the default mailto handler. Removing the fake email account caused the preference to become…

I did it this way by accident : I installed chrome and logged into gmail. Chrome asked me if I wanted to make gmail the default mail app and I said yes.

I would have NEVER discovered that this would be even possible any other way. I don't know if it works on other browsers but it's cool that it works.

On right click in chrome I have two "search with DuckDuckGo" options and one searches on a new tab and another on the same tab. I don't know why.

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