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Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by garyclarke27 »

JohnDoe365 wrote: post #38
garyclarke27 wrote: post #31

Good news I love Sublime it's so fast and slick - I haven't used Atom because consensus seems to be that it's not as fast with multiple large files open. Why is everyone obsessed about open source, yes nice to have but at the end of the day this is just a (very sharp) tool - what's your priority tinkering with your tools or getting the job done? 70$ is peanuts, speed and productivity gains way outweigh this. ST is mu…

But you understand that Postgres also went a long way and is Open Source?

I agree - I'm building a huge application on Postgres because of it has amazing capability and yes because it's Open Source. Doing the same on ms sql server or oracle in my case would be madness - because of their insane per core licensing costs for enterprise features which I need. However for my tools, I'm not bothered so long as a reasonable price or free MIT - in fact I'd rather pay for a commercial license than use a risky GPL license. I do feel sorry for Architects (my wife) though, they have to pay outrageous prices for design tools, literally thousands yet developers who earn far more than architects, bleat about trivial amounts such as $70 for ST.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by laumars »

jamespo wrote: post #59
laumars wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't disagree with you per se , but I do think you're exaggerating things a little with regards to just how unique Sublime Text is. I've spent a lot of time switching between text editors (more time than I really should - but sometimes procrastination trumps productivity) and here are some of my thoughts on the points you've raised: > Brackets was only good for web (wasn't it?) That's certainly where it excels at,…

I think you are an edge case, most people don't switch between 5 different editors, especially when emacs will do all you need ;)

That's possibly quite true.

I think it would be interesting to see statistics on the typical usage of any specific text editor (Atom, ST, whatever) as well as market penetration as most surveys I've seen only log which editor is preferred and don't account for users of multiple editors nor what those editors are used for.

It's quite possible that my usage patterns are the smallest of minorities, but it's the only datapoint I have at my disposal. :)

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by ivanca »

modulus1 wrote: post #26
moonlighter wrote: post #24

Sublime Text user here, who switched to Atom a year ago and never looked back. Never had any of the issues others described having with Atom such as slowness, etc. What I love about Atom is that it's under active, fast-paced development, that it's super-easy to customize (first thing was to increase the font-size of the left-hand folder pane), and the available plugins are fantastic. It probably also helps that exten…

> It probably also helps that extending Atom is much more approachable given that it's all Javascript... I've heard this said before, I've had the opposite experience. ST offers a small api and it was easy for me to make something work with a single .py file. I gave up trying the same thing in Atom; the api is larger and lower-level. Admission: I don't know coffeescript. ST of course isn't nearly as flexible, there a…

What are the things you can't do with ST? You can actually use the C bindings of python and do anything C can do... which is pretty much anything.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by softinio »

moonlighter wrote: post #24

Sublime Text user here, who switched to Atom a year ago and never looked back. Never had any of the issues others described having with Atom such as slowness, etc. What I love about Atom is that it's under active, fast-paced development, that it's super-easy to customize (first thing was to increase the font-size of the left-hand folder pane), and the available plugins are fantastic. It probably also helps that exten…

I totally agree with you. I switched to atom 4 weeks ago and have used it full time since. I love it, it works great.

The community, plugins available and ease of making plugins is phenomenal. Add to that its open source.

In my opinion as a sublime license holder who have used it for years, atom has defintely over taken it without doubt.

And yes, sublime is the new textmate :-)

One thing for sure is, with Atom around, if you do not already have a sublime license it certainly is not worth paying $70 for it today.

If u insist on paying for an editor or IDE at least go for a Jetbrains IDE.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by softinio »

profmonocle wrote: post #32
danharaj wrote: post #17

i really like Sublime. i've used it personally and professionally for years. but it's also the only piece of software that i use, the source code of which i don't have access to. i definitely would prefer something i can hack on for my own pleasure and profit, and my appreciation for FLOSS software has only grown and grown throughout my career. how's atom doing these days? can Sublime HQ really compete in the long ru…

> how's atom doing these days? Fairly well, IMO. The editor itself has caught up with Sublime for at least everything I care about, the community is very active, and they release updates pretty regularly. Unfortunately, although performance has gotten noticeably better, it's still way behind Sublime. Opening a new editor window takes about three seconds on my MacBook Air, vs. less than a second for Sublime. I find my…

Been using atom for 4 weeks now in place of Sublime. The slowness has not affected me at all. Especially as I rarely close my windows :-)

The benefits it provides far out ways its flaws. Atom is great.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by neoeldex »

sagichmal wrote: post #43
skrebbel wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Speed? Visual Studio Code is based on JavaScript too and it's very fast. They even both use Electron, the JS-desktop-app core that the Atom guys open sourced separately.

VS Code is leagues better than Atom, but it's still perceivably and annoyingly slower than Sublime.

Especially when dealing with large files, atom just breaks. In ST3 it shows loading the file, but never becomes unresponsive

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by alexwebb2 »

mmanfrin wrote: post #28
bsimpson wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds a lot like TextMate pre-Sublime. Atom is the third in a succession of hipster text editors. It'll be interesting to see if it ever gets performant enough to use primarily and if its open nature enables it to perch on the roost a bit longer.

Atom is the third in a succession of hipster text editors What an unbelievably pretentious thing to say.

The day we can have a discussion on text editors without someone trying to slip in a little dig like that... well, it's a day that's not coming anytime soon.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by gbersac »

kristofferR wrote: post #55
ggreer wrote: post #11

This is very good news, but I worry that it's too little, too late. For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong, Atom has significant drawbacks. But it also has advantages: it's open source, costs nothing, and has a couple dozen developers working on it. Sublime Text is closed source, costs $70 (totally worth it, IMO), and has two developers working on it. The differen…

You shouldn't judge the progress on Sublime Text based on when the last "stable version" was released. They seem to be way too perfectionistic in deeming version 3 stable - the developer versions have all been more stable for me than any version of Atom ever has been. The Sublime Text 3 betas are production ready. It's true that the development progress has been really slow/halted this last year, but it seems to have…

That's the reason why I consider sublime text to be superior to atom. I heard some people complain about few bugs, ie sublime not working on some linux distribution. Nothing happened to me.

And sublime is FAST.

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