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Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by ino »

klum wrote: post #42
garyclarke27 wrote: post #31

Good news I love Sublime it's so fast and slick - I haven't used Atom because consensus seems to be that it's not as fast with multiple large files open. Why is everyone obsessed about open source, yes nice to have but at the end of the day this is just a (very sharp) tool - what's your priority tinkering with your tools or getting the job done? 70$ is peanuts, speed and productivity gains way outweigh this. ST is mu…

For me, the issue with Atom and speed has nothing to do with large files. It's that even with small files, it's often just slightly unresponsive--not that it freezes or anything like that, just that lots of things take a fraction of a second longer than they should, which becomes very annoying in the long run. In my opinion, this really shouldn't have to be a problem today... on the other hand, it seems like a lot of…

Exactly, in so many simple situations I press a key and there's a > 200ms delay. It gets tiring very fast and I want instant responsiveness on most actions. Sublime delivers.

Example: selecting and writing with multiple cursors.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by s9w »

wbond wrote: post #49

Wow, thanks everyone! I'm thrilled to be working with Jon and Kari and to be helping with Sublime Text.

Hey wbond, I'm glad that you're now part of the team. Can you say anything about what you'll work on? Only package-stuff or other things too?

And does this mean there are now more planned features and a more stable future for sublime? You know the burning questions of the community.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by wbond »

s9w wrote: post #52
wbond wrote: post #49

Wow, thanks everyone! I'm thrilled to be working with Jon and Kari and to be helping with Sublime Text.

Hey wbond, I'm glad that you're now part of the team. Can you say anything about what you'll work on? Only package-stuff or other things too? And does this mean there are now more planned features and a more stable future for sublime? You know the burning questions of the community.

I‘ll be working on everything related to Sublime Text.

I was part of the dev releases building up to 3103, moving the forum and merging in pull requests from https://github.com/sublimehq/Packages.

We are definitely working on improving all the different aspects of Sublime, so you can expect to continue seeing new builds!

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by kristofferR »

ggreer wrote: post #11

This is very good news, but I worry that it's too little, too late. For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong, Atom has significant drawbacks. But it also has advantages: it's open source, costs nothing, and has a couple dozen developers working on it. Sublime Text is closed source, costs $70 (totally worth it, IMO), and has two developers working on it. The differen…

You shouldn't judge the progress on Sublime Text based on when the last "stable version" was released. They seem to be way too perfectionistic in deeming version 3 stable - the developer versions have all been more stable for me than any version of Atom ever has been. The Sublime Text 3 betas are production ready.

It's true that the development progress has been really slow/halted this last year, but it seems to have gotten back on track in the last month.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by dvcrn »

Very amazing news! I loved sublime text and kept holding onto it while everyone else was switching.

At some point I got really frustrated with the plugin API. Stuff like only 1 thing can write into the gutter at a time and that relative line numbers is close to impossible to implement (the package that exists is garbage) is just ridiculous.

That was the moment when I switched to atom and ported my sublimious plugin to atom (proton). I've since been using atom and am quite happy with it but now and then look back at the ST3 days and the incredible performance that ST3 offers.

I hope with Will on board, development will finally pick up again. ST3 needs excited developers that want to push it further and Will seems like that kind of person. I'd love to grab my old license out of the cellar and give it another spin.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by SunShiranui »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #16
ggreer wrote: post #11

This is very good news, but I worry that it's too little, too late. For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong, Atom has significant drawbacks. But it also has advantages: it's open source, costs nothing, and has a couple dozen developers working on it. Sublime Text is closed source, costs $70 (totally worth it, IMO), and has two developers working on it. The differen…

The plugin ecology for Atom is also great. Sublime has an extremely limited API; I remember trying to implement a simple autocomplete-based window switcher, back in the day, and had to give up because was no way to programmatically switch to a new window. With Atom, packages can manipulate the editor. For example, the Atom linter shows errors on the line where it occurs. It can do this because packages are allowed to…

Thanks for the plugin recommendations, I think I could use some of them.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by arc0re »

ggreer wrote: post #11

This is very good news, but I worry that it's too little, too late. For years, Sublime Text had no serious competitors. Then Atom came along. Don't get me wrong, Atom has significant drawbacks. But it also has advantages: it's open source, costs nothing, and has a couple dozen developers working on it. Sublime Text is closed source, costs $70 (totally worth it, IMO), and has two developers working on it. The differen…

To me, Sublime Text was never made to last long. First of all, its not open source. Are Emacs and Vim closed source? No. Why are they still around? Because in addition to being great (Sublime Text is great too don't get me wrong), they are open source. That means people can adapt them to new computers, to new architectures.

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by jamespo »

laumars wrote: post #48
ikurei wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also think that the "no competition" point is overblown, but Sublime was still quite unique. It is very general purpose, not focused on any particular domain like Brackets, multiplatform, and with a great plugin ecosystem. It was a swiss-knife editor, that you could throw at anything and was always great. I don't use it any more, but a few years ago I did everything, from writing a paper in latex to webdev to C, in…

I don't disagree with you per se , but I do think you're exaggerating things a little with regards to just how unique Sublime Text is. I've spent a lot of time switching between text editors (more time than I really should - but sometimes procrastination trumps productivity) and here are some of my thoughts on the points you've raised: > Brackets was only good for web (wasn't it?) That's certainly where it excels at,…

I think you are an edge case, most people don't switch between 5 different editors, especially when emacs will do all you need ;)

Re: Will Bond (Package Control) Joins Sublime HQ

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Post by daemin »

moonlighter wrote: post #24

Sublime Text user here, who switched to Atom a year ago and never looked back. Never had any of the issues others described having with Atom such as slowness, etc. What I love about Atom is that it's under active, fast-paced development, that it's super-easy to customize (first thing was to increase the font-size of the left-hand folder pane), and the available plugins are fantastic. It probably also helps that exten…

I do kind of wonder if nearly all of the people using Atom are primarily web developers, and are already familiar with JavaScript and Atom's environment.
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