Amazing idea. It will save so many people form mal-links but even sophisticated users from trying to figure out which is the real "download" button
No More Deceptive Download Buttons
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a google SERP for "insurance": http://imgur.com/VUqwyPq Are you saying the bright "ad" lozenge next to the paid results isn't explicit enough? And anyways, users don't go out of their way to avoid clicking on ads unless the ads are utter crap. Google's whole business is to make the ads relevant to the search and the user, so who's to say the ad isn't actually a relevant result?
>the bright "ad" lozenge next to the paid results isn't explicit enough Yes, it is not explicit enough. The tiny yellow box is just a noise present on every search page. As any noise it will be ignored. Especially when everything else in these ads tries to look exactly as a valid search result.
So what should Google do then? If a "tiny yellow box" is just noise, isn't a larger yellow box just more noise?
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#193Hmmm, I just went to google.com and typed "Chrome for Windows" Of the 10 links that appeared, at least 4 or 5 were for malware infected versions of Chrome. I followed the links, the download buttons on those pages are still shown. Maybe I misunderstood
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Has any site that has been incorrectly de-indexed from Google sued and won? I have no idea, but this would be super fascinating.
De-indexed in search is a bit different from effectively blocked in the browser. If Chrome says your site is dangerous and actually your site is harmless, are they defaming your website? If Google choose not to include you in their search engine, that could still be an issue, but it's probably a lot more nuanced.
Yea, I wonder if stating a site is dangerous would be considered libel in the US...
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#195So safe browsing is now blocking pages where the adverts are "often not distinguishable from the rest of the page"? IMO that covers all of Google's search result pages. Most users don't seem to realise that the top results are paid advertising...
Here's a google SERP for "insurance": http://imgur.com/VUqwyPq Are you saying the bright "ad" lozenge next to the paid results isn't explicit enough? And anyways, users don't go out of their way to avoid clicking on ads unless the ads are utter crap. Google's whole business is to make the ads relevant to the search and the user, so who's to say the ad isn't actually a relevant result?
When there isn't a single result on that whole screenshot that isn't an ad? No that's not enough!
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#196Sounds good to me.
I'd like to see Google take this one step further: author and publisher (as in advertising network) accountability.
https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/Fitbdvdk...
Advertising providers, and advertising _publishers_, who forward "bad ads" are given a time-out.
Perhaps 10 minutes for the first instance, but increasing durations for repeat ocurrences. Days, weeks, and months for repeated gratuitious violations.
Ad providers and publishers who find they're being timed out for violating standards are, likely, going to clean up their acts, and find ways to ensure that mistakes _don't_ happen. Including direct vetting of content.
If Google don't block ads, I will.
Oh, wait, I already do that. But the rest of the Net is still catching up.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
De-indexed in search is a bit different from effectively blocked in the browser. If Chrome says your site is dangerous and actually your site is harmless, are they defaming your website? If Google choose not to include you in their search engine, that could still be an issue, but it's probably a lot more nuanced.
Yea, I wonder if stating a site is dangerous would be considered libel in the US...
Probably not, but Google EU is in Ireland and their libel laws are likely to be a lot like those of England, which is to say super pro the person who feels wronged.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly this. Ads served through Adsense are flooded with these. We have spent countless hours trying to block all of them but they just pop up again under a different domain. So is Google going to punish publishers who are using Adsense if these ads come through Adsense?
I could only wish that Google will punish their own sites the same too. There are countless ads on YouTube claiming to provide free Minecraft downloads, commonly shown to very young viewers of YouTube. You might even be able to see these right now by turning on Private Browsing and disabling your ad-blocker.
Yep! This is a big issue on pretty much most Minecraft specific content sites & videos. I think these spammers specifically target Minecraft keywords and Minecraft sites through Adwords display ads knowing that kids will click the ads. If your site has Minecraft content and is serving Adsense within that content, you are almost certain to have these types of ads display. Not the fault of the actual content site but an issue with the spammers targeting through Adwords.
It is really common actually on most game content or videos that are geared towards the youth. These Adwords spammers target this category specifically.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
>the bright "ad" lozenge next to the paid results isn't explicit enough Yes, it is not explicit enough. The tiny yellow box is just a noise present on every search page. As any noise it will be ignored. Especially when everything else in these ads tries to look exactly as a valid search result.
So what should Google do then? If a "tiny yellow box" is just noise, isn't a larger yellow box just more noise?
Google has more options than just the size of the box: for one thing they could make the box surround the ad (that is a common UX design to show related elements) and put the word "ad" around the entire border or the box, like police tape. That would make it a lot clearer that it was an ad.
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#200I tend to enjoy these type of announcements and discussions regarding Google, because it seems to remind the general population that while yes, Alphabet is a diversified technology powerhouse, at its core, its most primal competency is that of an advertising firm. A very successful advertising firm. Sort of like how Jerry Jones was a very successful oil business tycoon before diversifying his interests by way of purchasing the Dallas Cowboys and 'business-ing' it up to a multi-billion dollar brand. No oil, no Cowboys for Jerry. No ads, no self-driving cars for Google.