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No More Deceptive Download Buttons

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Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#72
post #15

I will take programs like this seriously when Google stops bundling Chrome installer with unrelated software like Adobe Flash.

Adobe Flash is a browser plugin. Chrome is a browser. How are they unrelated?

If you install Adobe Flash plugin for a different browser, Chrome gets bundled with it. Even if you don't want Chrome.

Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#73
post #63

It's a laudable initiative to protect average Joe from himself, but I don't feel like Google (or any other company) deciding for me what is dangerous. They should at least provide this feature as an opt-out option. Still, better option would be to educate more people of ad and script blockers.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/99020?hl=en

There's been a setting for this stuff forever.

Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#74
post #15

I will take programs like this seriously when Google stops bundling Chrome installer with unrelated software like Adobe Flash.

Flash is unrelated to a web browser? I mean I hate flash as much as the next guy... but how can Flash not be related to a browser?

You want to install Flash for Firefox, it will install Chrome by default.

Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#75
post #9

This is a joke right ? We run Adsense display ads on our site and have to spend significant time every day reviewing and blocking new ads which try to use these deceptive practices. Since Google clearly has the tech to detect this they should be implementing it at source on the advertisers (malvertisers). Instead they are pushing this down to the publishers and hitting them with penalties. It's a clever ploy in some…

Spot On.

I run an online media streaming site for public safety communications, and we've noticed that Adsense advertisers often use these exact social engineering techniques to display download/play links that end up having customers install crappy spyware infested "media players" and other software.

My jaw dropped when I saw this blog post.

Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#76
post #53
post #9

This is a joke right ? We run Adsense display ads on our site and have to spend significant time every day reviewing and blocking new ads which try to use these deceptive practices. Since Google clearly has the tech to detect this they should be implementing it at source on the advertisers (malvertisers). Instead they are pushing this down to the publishers and hitting them with penalties. It's a clever ploy in some…

Firstly, this will work on ad networks other than Google, so it''s more broad reaching than anything they could do just within AdSense. This is good. Secondly, and arguably more importantly, the way to stop these adverts is for them to cost the advertiser (in either money or time) without giving them the reward of revenue. If the ads stop working then people won't have a reason to make them. By stopping the ads in Ad…

> By stopping the ads in AdSense rogue advertisers would just change to a different ad network. The problem wouldn't stop.

It would stop the problem on every Google's partner that decided to trust it by displaying its ads.

Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#77

As I write this, the ranking of the comments here is... strange. Those who see this as being yet another way of Google using their power to manipulate what people see on the Internet are being heavily downvoted, while those agreeing with the practice are not? That doesn't feel like HN to me. I'm in the former group. This mollycoddling is just going to lead to more users who can't decide for themselves whether somethi…

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Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#79

So safe browsing is now blocking pages where the adverts are "often not distinguishable from the rest of the page"? IMO that covers all of Google's search result pages. Most users don't seem to realise that the top results are paid advertising...

Came here to say this. Most of their above-the-fold "results" are either ads or SEO-ed junk probably full of Google ads.

More broadly, pretending to protect against social engineering is a joke. They won't catch anything other than the most obvious stuff, and they will also block some stuff that many people won't want blocked. Does this feature block Java downloads containing the Ask toolbar? Should it?

Re: No More Deceptive Download Buttons

#80
post #53
post #9

This is a joke right ? We run Adsense display ads on our site and have to spend significant time every day reviewing and blocking new ads which try to use these deceptive practices. Since Google clearly has the tech to detect this they should be implementing it at source on the advertisers (malvertisers). Instead they are pushing this down to the publishers and hitting them with penalties. It's a clever ploy in some…

Firstly, this will work on ad networks other than Google, so it''s more broad reaching than anything they could do just within AdSense. This is good. Secondly, and arguably more importantly, the way to stop these adverts is for them to cost the advertiser (in either money or time) without giving them the reward of revenue. If the ads stop working then people won't have a reason to make them. By stopping the ads in Ad…

This does not make any sense. Advertisers paying per view do not get charged for a view if crome prevents the user from viewing the page.

The good news here is we now have official admission by google that allowing adsense ads without filtering is dangerous. And those of us who do not have sophisticated techniques that can detect deceptive ads have no choice to but to block the entire network serving them, if we want to be secure.

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