I will take programs like this seriously when Google stops bundling Chrome installer with unrelated software like Adobe Flash.
Adobe Flash is a browser plugin. Chrome is a browser. How are they unrelated?
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#22I will take programs like this seriously when Google stops bundling Chrome installer with unrelated software like Adobe Flash.
Flash is unrelated to a web browser? I mean I hate flash as much as the next guy... but how can Flash not be related to a browser?
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#23I hope they'll include a "Stop the nanny" flag in chrome://flags as well.
I mean you can't even change the new tab page to a custom .html, without Chrome nagging you at every launch if the settings are correct. If you make a manifest.json and load as an unpacked extension, it will moan about that.
FFS, I know what you're trying to do with Joe/Jane Noob, but at least give me something to skip that if I know what I'm doing.
[edit] This wouldn't be even needed if new tab page was customizable. Now it it's just a Google billboard.
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#24Perhaps now that Google has taken steps to block websites that display these ads, Google should take steps to stop accepting these ads onto their network in the first place. Most of the time when I see those DOWNLOAD/PLAY buttons, they're hosted on doubleclick.
I'm not sure they need to. Google's approach here tackles the problem of these ads being created from an economic direction: if nobody is seeing these ads, they won't make any CPM money any more, so their creators will stop running them.
That's a much more sensible approach than doing what you're suggesting—trying to catch specific instances of people doing something nefarious that makes them money. That just causes the people posting the ads to get more clever, such that it gets more and more costly to catch each instance. (That was helpful in the ReCAPTCHA case, since spammers were advancing computer vision techniques in the process. It's not a harnessable force in the general case.)
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#25I know these fake ads all suck and everyone hates them but somehow getting rid of them feels like cutting off a little piece of what makes the web the web.
I kinda like this darker, more free-for-all, wild wild west side of the Internet.
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#26Perhaps now that Google has taken steps to block websites that display these ads, Google should take steps to stop accepting these ads onto their network in the first place. Most of the time when I see those DOWNLOAD/PLAY buttons, they're hosted on doubleclick.
It'll be interesting to see if they block people from visiting sites that use doubleclick for ads, or if this is just an excuse for blocking sites that use competing ad providers.
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#27I hope they'll include a "Stop the nanny" flag in chrome://flags as well. I mean you can't even change the new tab page to a custom .html, without Chrome nagging you at every launch if the settings are correct. If you make a manifest.json and load as an unpacked extension, it will moan about that. FFS, I know what you're trying to do with Joe/Jane Noob, but at least give me something to skip that if I know what I'm d…
The hard part here is that, wherever you'd decide to persist a "don't bug me any more about this" flag, malware could also potentially write that same flag to that same place. For example, Windows UAC is frequently set to the "don't bug me about this, just auto-elevate" setting by malware.
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#28This is a joke right ? We run Adsense display ads on our site and have to spend significant time every day reviewing and blocking new ads which try to use these deceptive practices. Since Google clearly has the tech to detect this they should be implementing it at source on the advertisers (malvertisers). Instead they are pushing this down to the publishers and hitting them with penalties. It's a clever ploy in some…
Google doesn't charge for ads, it charges for impressions. If you user doesn't seem it, google doesn't get paid.
It also seems like a very different tech than trying to determine what an ad script will actually show a user. So it's not easy as if they can do A they can do B. Still doesn't excuse the fact that they should be doing their best to block those kind of ads in their ad network.
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#29This is a joke right ? We run Adsense display ads on our site and have to spend significant time every day reviewing and blocking new ads which try to use these deceptive practices. Since Google clearly has the tech to detect this they should be implementing it at source on the advertisers (malvertisers). Instead they are pushing this down to the publishers and hitting them with penalties. It's a clever ploy in some…
yes, yes and yes ...
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#30This is a joke right ? We run Adsense display ads on our site and have to spend significant time every day reviewing and blocking new ads which try to use these deceptive practices. Since Google clearly has the tech to detect this they should be implementing it at source on the advertisers (malvertisers). Instead they are pushing this down to the publishers and hitting them with penalties. It's a clever ploy in some…
I would expect an ad blocker to block stuff like this.