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If you're interested in the CIA's involvement with the UFO phenomena check out this article on the Robertson Panel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel

“(t)he "debunking" aim would result in reduction in public interest in "flying saucers" which today evokes a strong psychological reaction. This education could be accomplished by mass media such as television, motion pictures, and popular articles. Basis of such education would be actual case histories which had been puzzling at first but later explained. As in the case of conjuring tricks, there is much less stimulation if the "secret" is known. Such a program should tend to reduce the current gullibility of the public and consequently their susceptibility to clever hostile propaganda. The Panel noted that the general absence of Russian propaganda based on a subject with so many obvious possibilities for exploitation might indicate a possible Russian official policy….The Panel took cognizance of the existence of such groups as the "Civilian Flying Saucer Investigators" (Los Angeles) and the "Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (Wisconsin). It was believed that such organizations should be watched because of their potentially great influence on mass thinking if widespread sightings should occur. The apparent irresponsibility and the possible use of such groups for subversive purposes should be kept in mind.”

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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I'm surprised they're continuing the misdirection so many years later. "Unidentified flying object" means an aircraft, usually a military one (because civilian aircraft are easier to identify). A UFO over US soil would usually be a USAF plane, but the CIA ran (runs?) a reporting hotline because they might occasionally be foreign spy planes instead. But of course, the Soviets were very interested (or the US believed t…

>... at Area 51 (their airfield for testing experimental aircraft) I'm Canadian but that reminded of some relatives who sent a video of a birthday party. They were outside and a big booming noise could be heard and they all looked to see what it was. I didn't think much of it since it was hard to hear other than a sort of jet sound but they lived there and seemed to think it was different or unusual in some way. They…

I doubt it was anything Area 51 related. They have a large highly restricted airspace over Nevada to fly around in. However, Apple Valley is even closer to Edwards Air Force Base which has a long history of flight test including things like Chuck Yeager's supersonic flight, and for that matter the Virgin Galactic spaceship:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_Air_Force_Base

Many interesting things like the B-2 and the space shuttle were also produced in Palmdale (to the west of Apple Valley). You often see interesting things flying around that area.

EDIT: Virgin Galactic has nothing directly to do with Edwards, but they test in that airspace.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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"Delta Force" is not what it's called, either. The Army cycles through bureaucratic sounding names -- "Combat Applications Group" for example -- in order to keep it confusing. "Delta" comes from one of these names -- "Operational Detachment: Delta." This sounds like an unimportant support team for a Special Forces group. "OD: Alpha" is the main team of green berets (aka, "ODA" or "the A-Team"). They are supported by…

The army of Western Virginia.

The army of West Virginia.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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post #74

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as recently as last year when opening another checking account, the bank clerk told me to start my check numbers at atleast 500 (you can specify when ordering checks). I asked her why, and that was also the same reason given. I laughed at the silliness of the idea, but took her advice anyways.

It's not completely silly: a check number under 500 is still highly likely to be a newish account. The test is cheap and has low false positives, so the fact that the it is easily subverted only diminishes its effectiveness but doesn't make it useless.

But who's actually rejecting low number checks? It seems more common to see businesses reject accepting checks altogether.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Why does everyone always assume the government would hide aliens from the public?

Just because (theoretically) the government knows (or can't discredit the possibility) of UFOs being alien craft, doesn't mean they know where they come from, what they want or how to stop them. Revealing that beings from an unknown origin were violating our airspace at will, with technology we can't comprehend, doing whatever they wanted to people, messing with our military hardware, etc, and that there was absolute…

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Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does everyone always assume the government would hide aliens from the public?

Just because (theoretically) the government knows (or can't discredit the possibility) of UFOs being alien craft, doesn't mean they know where they come from, what they want or how to stop them. Revealing that beings from an unknown origin were violating our airspace at will, with technology we can't comprehend, doing whatever they wanted to people, messing with our military hardware, etc, and that there was absolute…

Why would it create a panic and destroy a government's credibility?

Obviously you don't make that announcement unless you have proof, but I've heard the "cause a panic" argument thousands of times, but never understood it. Why would it actually cause a panic, and what would this panic take the form of?

Let me put it another way: we can imagine all kinds of horrible scenarios, but what evidence do we actually have that society would crumble upon learning of beings from other planets?

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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As a cashier when I was a teenager, I was told to ID and call in anyone with a check # under 500 with the assumption that low check numbers were less likely to be reliable. When I ordered my first book of checks a few years later, I started with # 1550 and was never bothered.

as recently as last year when opening another checking account, the bank clerk told me to start my check numbers at atleast 500 (you can specify when ordering checks). I asked her why, and that was also the same reason given. I laughed at the silliness of the idea, but took her advice anyways.

Wow what country still uses cheques? Most stores won't take them anymore, here in New Zealand.
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