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Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by lsadam0 »

samstave wrote: post #48

My first UFO story: I was ~13 years old in The Civil Ait Patrol, this occurred in Truckee, Ca at the Truckee Airport. We were doing standard marching exercises and our troop leader was a former SR-71 mechanic/maint person... It was a full moon - and as our gatherings typically started after 5PM - it got dark fairly quickly. We were marching and then looking to the mountain line in the horizon, we saw a light come up…

Kinda sounds like the long rumored TR-3B ( http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/tr-3b/ ). I love UFO mythology, and that around the TR-3B is wild, to say the least.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by ddingus »

Laaw wrote: post #37
[deleted] wrote: post #30

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Why does everyone always assume the government would hide aliens from the public?

I have wondered about that myself.

One plausible argument centers on overall stability. Most of the public would be fine with it, but that slice of the public that would not be fine could be a big worry.

However, I do not believe the secret would hold. It would be too important. Someone would leak. Way too many of us would really want to know and find it all fascinating.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by rhino369 »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #39

I love UFOs because UFOs tell us a lot about how we deal with non-reproducible observations. Walk outside and see a green, glowing light that hovers then disappears? You can walk outside again for the rest of your life and never see it again. Does that mean you didn't see anything? Of course not. This really messes with people's heads. The rationalists will say that since we can't independently observe it, it might a…

Our American government was never based on the idea that the people would have direct input on all issues.

We elect leaders (not followers) to run the country. They probably shouldn't keep fundamental facts about government from us. But lying about our first strike nuclear capabilities to get an edge is understandable.

That's why it's important to vote not just for a platform but for the candidate. Because they'll be dealing with issues that aren't known, be them hidden or just yet to surface. Especially for president. Our president is modeled after a limited monarch, just with an limited term.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by beachstartup »

sanoli wrote: post #41
jimrandomh wrote: post #22

I'm surprised they're continuing the misdirection so many years later. "Unidentified flying object" means an aircraft, usually a military one (because civilian aircraft are easier to identify). A UFO over US soil would usually be a USAF plane, but the CIA ran (runs?) a reporting hotline because they might occasionally be foreign spy planes instead. But of course, the Soviets were very interested (or the US believed t…

There's probably a lot of this going. Comes to mind right now the way the Navy had about two seal teams in the beginning, and then decided to name the next one 'Team 6', to make it look like they had more. I've read about other examples, but can't remember right now.

small companies do this too, because it works great.

employee #63, invoice #51775. press 1 for sales, 2 for support. sure.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by kamaal »

hyperpallium wrote: post #38
Jerry2 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was a kid, I asked my grandfather, who was at that time an AF Colonel (he's now passed away), whether UFOs were real and whether he has seen aliens. He just looked at me, took me aside, and told me that UFO stories were propagated by the "boys from Langley" as a way to hide experimental aircraft testing. That way, every report of some black plane that was seen by the public, would be chalked up to UFOs and Rus…

Like carrots. The British promulgated the belief that carrots improve eyesight to explain the effective of their aircraft spotters, instead of radar.

>>Like carrots.

Poor thing. As a kid I told my cousin(he wore glasses), that carrots were good for the eyes, to a point I exaggerated if he ate enough he could get rid of them altogether at some point.

He would eat kgs of carrots.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by nathanm412 »

sanoli wrote: post #41
jimrandomh wrote: post #22

I'm surprised they're continuing the misdirection so many years later. "Unidentified flying object" means an aircraft, usually a military one (because civilian aircraft are easier to identify). A UFO over US soil would usually be a USAF plane, but the CIA ran (runs?) a reporting hotline because they might occasionally be foreign spy planes instead. But of course, the Soviets were very interested (or the US believed t…

There's probably a lot of this going. Comes to mind right now the way the Navy had about two seal teams in the beginning, and then decided to name the next one 'Team 6', to make it look like they had more. I've read about other examples, but can't remember right now.

As a cashier when I was a teenager, I was told to ID and call in anyone with a check # under 500 with the assumption that low check numbers were less likely to be reliable. When I ordered my first book of checks a few years later, I started with # 1550 and was never bothered.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by simple10 »

jimrandomh wrote: post #22

I'm surprised they're continuing the misdirection so many years later. "Unidentified flying object" means an aircraft, usually a military one (because civilian aircraft are easier to identify). A UFO over US soil would usually be a USAF plane, but the CIA ran (runs?) a reporting hotline because they might occasionally be foreign spy planes instead. But of course, the Soviets were very interested (or the US believed t…

Here's a link that explains all the fakery used at Area 51 including the fake cardboard planes to fool infrared.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110520-area-...

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by krapp »

Laaw wrote: post #37
[deleted] wrote: post #30

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Why does everyone always assume the government would hide aliens from the public?

Just because (theoretically) the government knows (or can't discredit the possibility) of UFOs being alien craft, doesn't mean they know where they come from, what they want or how to stop them. Revealing that beings from an unknown origin were violating our airspace at will, with technology we can't comprehend, doing whatever they wanted to people, messing with our military hardware, etc, and that there was absolutely nothing anyone could do about it, might create a panic and destroy that government's credibility.

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by lazyant »

sanoli wrote: post #41
jimrandomh wrote: post #22

I'm surprised they're continuing the misdirection so many years later. "Unidentified flying object" means an aircraft, usually a military one (because civilian aircraft are easier to identify). A UFO over US soil would usually be a USAF plane, but the CIA ran (runs?) a reporting hotline because they might occasionally be foreign spy planes instead. But of course, the Soviets were very interested (or the US believed t…

There's probably a lot of this going. Comes to mind right now the way the Navy had about two seal teams in the beginning, and then decided to name the next one 'Team 6', to make it look like they had more. I've read about other examples, but can't remember right now.

Oracle release 2, there was no R1

Re: CIA declassifies hundreds of UFO documents

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Post by sandworm101 »

How much money does it take to get a US agency to issue a blog post in support of a TV series?

Granted, those in charge of the CIA blog are probably the right age to be die hard Xfiles fans, but after the StarWars promotion at the white house I'm seeing lobbyists everywhere.

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