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Plants have to die too in order for you to eat them generally.
well it's a good thing plants aren't sentient then.
Yes they are
Confessions of a Paleo Diet Pioneer
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#52> Recent data on these issues make me more comfortable today saying what not to eat. Our ancestors had no ... Isn't that yet another fallacy? Just because our ancestors didn't have it, doesn't automatically mean it's bad for us. If we can learn anything at all from our ancestors, then it's that the human body is pretty adoptable to different food sources. So if we want to know what's bad for us we should simply do st…
In the case of refined carbohydrates, there is abundant evidence that they are bad for us.
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#53Does the below excerpt alleviate the belief that GMO foods are harmful? In 1985 scientists believed that few genetic changes had occurred since we were all hunting and gathering, say 10,000 years ago. Now we know that lots of genes have changed. One fascinating new finding is that within the last few thousand years Eskimos evolved genes for enzymes to process the fatty acids in Arctic fish.
I can't see why it would. I am sure some people would argue that any GMO food is somehow evil and deadly, but I think that thinking of that sort can be discarded. However some GMO foods achieve pest and disease resistance by causing the plant to secrete toxins - pesticides, and these are what some experiments have shown troubling results for. On the other hand farmers spray these toxins on crops in any case. Personal…
> these are what some experiments have shown troubling results for
If you're referring to Roundup, the study everyone likes to quote is so hilariously flawed it actually indicates that males who drink a pint of Roundup a day show health benefits.
The problem with GMO studies is that the ones biased against GMO tend to be unsound and the ones biased in favour of it tend to be paid for by GMO companies. Even the WHO doesn't bother actually reading the studies and goes around toting dodgy abstracts.
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#54Does the below excerpt alleviate the belief that GMO foods are harmful? In 1985 scientists believed that few genetic changes had occurred since we were all hunting and gathering, say 10,000 years ago. Now we know that lots of genes have changed. One fascinating new finding is that within the last few thousand years Eskimos evolved genes for enzymes to process the fatty acids in Arctic fish.
Only if you believe the process followed by GMO engineering is the same as the process of selective breeding
In a way selective breeding is a subcategory of GMO engineering. There's nothing fishy about fish genes that are added to crops, for example -- it's just taking the element of chance necessary for mutations to develop out of it, really.
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#55Whole-food plant-based vegan here. Life is good. Energy is high.
Okay, so we've got the unrelated vegan comment, there's already an unrelated CrossFit comment, all we need is someone to mention they're an atheist and we've got the trifecta. It's almost as if nutrition is incredibly complex and different things work for different people.
Funny you should mention that.
As a Christian I think you should eat everything there is because if God put it there, He obviously intended us to use it.
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Plants have to die too in order for you to eat them generally.
Especially when the animals are fed them in amounts many times greater than could be fed to humans directly.
Also, modern agriculture kills lots of little critters (including lots of fluffy rodents). Just ask anyone who's ever worked on a farm.
The only 100% moral solution obviously is not to eat.
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Especially when the animals are fed them in amounts many times greater than could be fed to humans directly.
Also, modern agriculture kills lots of little critters (including lots of fluffy rodents). Just ask anyone who's ever worked on a farm. The only 100% moral solution obviously is not to eat.
Lots? I'm sure it's nothing compared to the premeditated killing of 150 billion animals born and bred into captivity on purpose, every year. Seeing as how not eating is infeasible, I'm not sure your solution is reasonable.
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#59The evidence for plant-based, low-fat vegan diets seems more convincing to me. Is there a paleo version of http://nutritionfacts.org - complete with direct links or citations to research supporting the proposed way to eat? I'm not trying to be snarky, but rather genuinely curious what scientific basis this diet really has. The article says we're wise to limit saturated fat intake and increase fibre intake, but isn't…
Low-fat diets aren't particularly good for you, as you can see by the current generation of unhealthy heart disease-having Americans dutifully following them. If your macronutrient ratio is going to be high-carb, you at least need a strong culture of small portions like Asians do to keep a precise daily calorie target.
> Low-fat diets aren't particularly good for you, as you can see by the current generation of unhealthy heart disease-having Americans dutifully following them.
I'm not aware of any such cohort. Can you cite any examples of unhealthy low-fat diet populations? Perhaps you could explain what you mean by, "low fat". My own interpretation is fewer than 10% of calories from fat, mostly from unsaturated fat. (Polyunsaturated fat, of course, being the only essential fatty acid for humans, where as mono-unsaturated, saturated and trans fatty acids have no recommended daily amount, as they are unnecessary altogether.)
> If your macronutrient ratio is going to be high-carb, you at least need a strong culture of small portions like Asians do to keep a precise daily calorie target.
So the traditional ~2 billion Chinese people following a mostly plant-based, rice diet (before the advent of Western, high-fat, high-protein foods) were all restricting calories? I find that difficult to fathom.
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#60I've always appreciated Michael Pollan's essay (and books) on this subject. His advice can be summed up as "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants." [1] In his books he argues strongly against the nutritionist strategy of trying to separate out the healthy components of foods from the foods themselves. For example, I know many nutritionists who take vitamins, but Pollan points out when you take the Vitamin C without t…
I've heard mixed things about salt. For example, look at the results in this Google search[1]. "Salt is obviously bad." "It's a myth, salt is probably fine." Etc. My takeaway has been that, as long as you don't have high blood pressure or some specific condition, the typical amount of salt in modern diets is fine. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=salt+in+diet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf...
> My takeaway has been that, as long as you don't have high blood pressure or some specific condition, the typical amount of salt in modern diets is fine.
But, salt is exactly what raises blood pressure in the first place. Take a look at this - http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-evidence-that-salt-raise...