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Project Rider – A C# IDE

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Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#21

JetBrains is deadly. IntelliJ IDEA is simply the best tool I've ever used for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and PostgreSQL. Incredibly intuitive and it does it all. It's what Photoshop is for designers. This immediately gets me stoked for doing my Unity C# development with this. * Edit. Initially thought this was an entirely new IDE, and not just a plugin. Less excited, but certainly worth a look.

Sounds like its a branch of the IntelliJ IDEA codebase

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#22

JetBrains is deadly. IntelliJ IDEA is simply the best tool I've ever used for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and PostgreSQL. Incredibly intuitive and it does it all. It's what Photoshop is for designers. This immediately gets me stoked for doing my Unity C# development with this. * Edit. Initially thought this was an entirely new IDE, and not just a plugin. Less excited, but certainly worth a look.

It is a completly new IDE, it's just based on the same technology they use for their other IDEs

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#23

JetBrains is deadly. IntelliJ IDEA is simply the best tool I've ever used for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and PostgreSQL. Incredibly intuitive and it does it all. It's what Photoshop is for designers. This immediately gets me stoked for doing my Unity C# development with this. * Edit. Initially thought this was an entirely new IDE, and not just a plugin. Less excited, but certainly worth a look.

This is not a plugin but a standalone product. Essentially this is standalone IntelliJ shell that communicates with a ReSharper process.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Visual Studio is one of the best IDE out there, and it is likely to remain better than Rider for at least a while. It surely "comes close" ;)

I don't agree. If an IDE takes better hardware to run than Crysis and is so bloated with features that it makes a Epson HX-20 look like a Macbook Air there is a problem. People use Visual Studios because they are used to it.

The problem isn't feature bloat (lots of people need feature X, some others need feature Y). The problem is that you can't properly uncheck/select features you don't want yet in the instealler, so you end up with a lot of stuff you don't need.

For performance: If you ask me what is more expensive computationally: Crysis or an IDE; I say an IDE can at least as performance hungry. Nothing strange with that. Try writing code to perform syntax check and autocompletion on broken/incomplete syntax, for a few thousand files, then you'll see what I mean.

I'm very happy to use a monster gaming machine for coding (professionally) if it increases my productivity even just a little.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#25

Are there any clauses in the Roslyn license that prevents third parties for using it for writing code that directly competes with Microsofts own products such as Visual Studio?

Nope. And they aren't using Roslyn from what I'm aware.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

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post #25

Are there any clauses in the Roslyn license that prevents third parties for using it for writing code that directly competes with Microsofts own products such as Visual Studio?

Nope. And they aren't using Roslyn from what I'm aware.

I assume they aren't, because their Resharper codebase already had the bits needed. Still, if you start writing a C# IDE from scratch, wouldn't the obvious choice be using Roslyn for everything from autocomplete to refactorings? Easily half to 90% of the work going into an IDE has to be in the language services (if you want to do the really tricky things well, like completing broken syntax).

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#27

JetBrains is deadly. IntelliJ IDEA is simply the best tool I've ever used for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and PostgreSQL. Incredibly intuitive and it does it all. It's what Photoshop is for designers. This immediately gets me stoked for doing my Unity C# development with this. * Edit. Initially thought this was an entirely new IDE, and not just a plugin. Less excited, but certainly worth a look.

This is not a plugin but a standalone product. Essentially this is standalone IntelliJ shell that communicates with a ReSharper process.

Oh, my mistake. Excitement levels elevated.

Good news everyone!

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#28
post #6

Ever since I started reading the C# language docs I wanted to switch to it from Java. Open sourcing some of the components of the language only pushed that drive farther. I'm glad to see that now a switch to C# is viable for me. I need a good IDE, and nothing really comes close to the 'gold' standard, JetBrains products. Bravo! Can't wait to use it.

Visual Studio is one of the best IDE out there, and it is likely to remain better than Rider for at least a while. It surely "comes close" ;)

Last time I used VS, I was surprised by the lack of some pretty basic features, such as Ctrl+click navigation (there is a plugin for that though), or a quick way to show formatted function documentation in a popup.

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#29
Nice to finally have some alternatives in the same "heavy weight" C# IDE category.

Very curious about some aspects:

How do they deal with Nuget, do they have a powershell (Pash) console integrated?

Do they plan to integrate Roslyn ("code fixes" for exemple, there would be some overlapping in functionnaly with their code but roslyn will probably become the "standard" to share these things)?

Re: Project Rider – A C# IDE

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't agree. If an IDE takes better hardware to run than Crysis and is so bloated with features that it makes a Epson HX-20 look like a Macbook Air there is a problem. People use Visual Studios because they are used to it.

The problem isn't feature bloat (lots of people need feature X, some others need feature Y). The problem is that you can't properly uncheck/select features you don't want yet in the instealler, so you end up with a lot of stuff you don't need. For performance: If you ask me what is more expensive computationally: Crysis or an IDE; I say an IDE can at least as performance hungry. Nothing strange with that. Try writing…

> The problem is that you can't properly uncheck/select features you don't want yet in the instealler, so you end up with a lot of stuff you don't need.

Isn't that functionally the same as being bloated?

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